Ruslan Provodnikov vs. Mauricio Herrera/Demetrius Andrade vs. Alberto Herrera RBR

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  1. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Provodnikov 116-112

    Though their were two other close rounds. I would have a difficult time scoring it anything more pro-Herrera than a draw.
     
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  2. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    :shock: Historic day in America! Where's the parade when we really need it?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqUipinDyw[/ame]
     
    Dracon, Jan 8, 2011
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  3. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pure rubbish...
     
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  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was surprised that Herrera got the decision. Close fight, though......not a robbery.

    I guess they saw the volume over the heavy shots. I'll tell you though, Provo is way too easy to hit. It was only a matter of time that someone did this.
     
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  5. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    et al ( pretty much means "and everybody else")
     
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  6. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any predictions on RP's next move? Doesn't look a rematch is possible anytime soon, although we be the best option in my mind. I'd like to see him back in the ring by March or April. Doesn't derail him too much. Definitely should take this as a wake up call to at least work on improving some of his technical flaws. I just hope this loss doesn't disillusion him and send him back to the relative comfort of fighting in Russia/Europe as it has others. What do you guys think?
     
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  7. hungover

    hungover Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, it was a close round away from going to Ruslan in my mind. however, in such a close fight, I'm only surprised because the undefeated prospect didn't get the nod, and I hate to say this, but I feel that is kind of a good thing because prospects always get the close fights over the sometimes harder-working B-level fighters like Herrera, so maybe that also factors in my acceptance of the scorecards!
     
    hungover, Jan 8, 2011
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, it isn't that big a setback. As has been pointed out, this was bound to happen with his style.

    He was never destined to go 40-0. He's the type of guy who will finish with plenty of losses to his credit but also many memorable ring moments (and a few good wins) if he hangs around long enough.

    April sounds about right, and would fit with his pattern of activity so far.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 8, 2011
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, obviously Provodnikov was the favorite and most saw him as more of the "rising star" out of the two (and it's entirely possible that this could have influenced some people's willingness to favor his work in close rounds) but it can be argued that both were still more or less prospects heading into this match-up. Provodnikov is younger but has been fighting a little longer. Herrera as of yesterday had a single close loss to a somewhat well-regarded prospect/contender (Anchondo), which put him in the exact same position that Provodnikov is in today.

    So this isn't quite the same level of "B-level veteran upsets undefeated prospect" scenario as, say, Honorio over Hilario last year (and this was a much closer fight; that one had a crystal clear winner with no wiggle room on the cards).

    IMO it's surprising that Herrera got the nod - generously so, on two cards - more because of the beating he took (and still wears like a ski mask) and the several middle rounds in which he seemed to land less tellingly...and not so much because of where they were in their careers or Provodnikov being some protected investment.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 8, 2011
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  10. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    Shiiiiit!

    Bailey argued with me a while back that Provodnikov was being ducked by all americans and that he'd KO Tim Bradley......****ing idiot
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Did he mean in the amateurs? :huh
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 8, 2011
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  12. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    Nooooooooo

    He said every single American 140lbs fighter is ducking him.... a can't take him serious though because he said Jan Zaveck had a better Resume then Tim Bradley
     
    MarvellaHogg, Jan 8, 2011
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh I misread your post...it looked like it said that bailey claimed Provodnikov did TKO Bradley.

    In the pros, he absolutely would not. That is so laughable it's cryable.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 8, 2011
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  14. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    I know! Bailey is ****ed in the head though....makes us english look bad
     
    MarvellaHogg, Jan 8, 2011
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  15. hungover

    hungover Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well no, it wasn't like it was the Drunken Master beating Provodnikov, that would be the veteran upset. I just meant that yeah, Provodnikov was labeled as a rising star and his style/story is way more attractable than Herrera's. so in a close fight, I would just assume Ruslan would get the nod. I agree about his face, it looks like he got slaughtered, but that's why I never use the "which fighter I'd rather be" argument when judging a fight.

    I wonder where both go from here, but more specifically where Herrera goes.
     
    hungover, Jan 8, 2011
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