russell will learn from this and be back.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014.


Page 6 of 7
  1. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    my sense is, theuy were going toe to toe in the last round and blasting away at each other...GRJ landed more punches but loma's were harder and more effective and seemed to hurt GRJ more because loma was bigger and stronger.
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #76
  2. weegriffin

    weegriffin Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,121
    22
    Aug 25, 2009
    What would there agenda be if Lomachenko is a Toprank fighter when they all mainly fight on HBO?

    The only reason this fight happened on ShowTime is GBP won the purse bids.
     
    weegriffin, Jun 22, 2014
    weegriffin, Jun 22, 2014
    #77
  3. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

    20,570
    19
    Nov 10, 2007
    From someone who put almost all his vcash on russell to win and wasn't a fan of loma at all, this is a total farce of scorecard.
     
    janeschicken, Jun 22, 2014
    janeschicken, Jun 22, 2014
    #78
  4. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    903
    Nov 24, 2012
    Loma was bigger but again......in this fight the size played no role at all in how this fight unfolded. It was clear the level in class was the big difference......Loma has equal talent, but his experience and savvy inside the ring gave Jr all kinds of trouble. He couldn't find his rhythm and therefore never really found his mark. Loma on the other hand controlled the fight and made sure Gary never gained any momentum.
     
    JohnnyDrama99, Jun 22, 2014
    JohnnyDrama99, Jun 22, 2014
    #79
  5. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    i think you're fulla shl8t
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #80
  6. 12gage

    12gage New Member Full Member

    54
    2
    Apr 19, 2008
    I think the agenda was simple. Loma is a great fighter and already at the championship levels after 3 fights. If Showtime can dig their claws into him now it is genius. Also another loss for Loma would have killed his marketability. For Showtime to be so flowery about a HBO guy something is up. Loma won the fight and dominated down the stretch but the announcing was pretty bad. I don't think Russell beats Loma at any weight but it was frustrating to me to have all that speed and basically smother yourself. If he learns how to use his speed and change pace of punches he will be a lot better. The heart and chin are there. Loma landed some killer body shots that would have ko'd most.
     
    12gage, Jun 22, 2014
    12gage, Jun 22, 2014
    #81
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

    34,221
    5,875
    Apr 30, 2006
    It's funny, Loma was the bigger fighter, but he never really used it to try and bully Russell. Everything he did was about controlling tempo and range, and the fight was about skills first rather than any physical mismatch.

    Russell threw enough punches to win the fight; the most important factor last night was that Lomachenko never neglected his defensive responsibilities. He never left himself open after combos, and even when they traded, his upper and lower body movement made it practically impossible for Gary to land anything meaningful (and most of the time, anything at all). To prevent a fighter with Russell's handspeed and workrate from landing cleanly on him all night (and to accomplish that without spoiling tactics) was exceptional.
     
    Rock0052, Jun 22, 2014
    Rock0052, Jun 22, 2014
    #82
  8. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

    20,570
    19
    Nov 10, 2007
    Check vbookie you dumb *****. I put almost all of it on Russell to win, and my predictions on the fight are documented on this site.
     
    janeschicken, Jun 22, 2014
    janeschicken, Jun 22, 2014
    #83
  9. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    did you not see all the rounds where GRJ took the play from loma by makihng loma back up or did you miiss all that?...because there were quite a few rounds where loma landed virtually nothing of significance and GRJ was the one initiating all the action wile loma simply kept backing off. also, to dismiss the size difference makes no sense. do you really think a bigger guy doesn't have an advantage simply by virtue of being bigger and having a bigger punch and the ability to take a bigger punch and be more physical?
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #84
  10. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    then you need to watch tghe fight again youu fkin ******.
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #85
  11. Joejr

    Joejr Boxing Addict banned

    5,693
    1
    Jun 10, 2014
    I think you need I watch the fight again you an one judge are the not people who has it a draw , look at Gary after the fight even he knew he lost
     
    Joejr, Jun 22, 2014
    Joejr, Jun 22, 2014
    #86
  12. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

    38,328
    7,898
    Sep 2, 2011
    He will definitely be back he just needs to make some adjustments, so I agree with that, the rest of what you said is ridiculous.
     
    Cafe, Jun 22, 2014
    Cafe, Jun 22, 2014
    #87
  13. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    i think the one judge gave GRJ 4 of the first 5 rounds...i can definitely see that...russell was throwing a lot more. the pattern was, russell would start off each round with sharp combos that backed up loma...GRJ would take a big lead in the round then in the last minute and a half, loma would land some punches and close the gap. the question was: did russell do enough in the early part of the round to offset loma's rally in the latter half of the round?...to me, the differnence in the early part of those rounds was clear.... but the latter half of the round would be more competitive. so, i gave GRJ rounds 2-4 by a slim margin.
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #88
  14. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    5,259
    38
    Apr 30, 2013
    jumpin on the bandwagon is sometimes the safest place to be.
     
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    cereal monotony, Jun 22, 2014
    #89
  15. spopovich

    spopovich Active Member Full Member

    1,138
    0
    Mar 30, 2014
    Idk. He showed tenacity in there but I just don't think hes THAT guy.
     
    spopovich, Jun 22, 2014
    spopovich, Jun 22, 2014
    #90
Page 6 of 7