Russian Doping Scandal: 99% affected including boxing

Hope Roygei Jonesenko has enough room for bunkmates, because Tarver, Toney, Mosley, and a whole slew of others are gonna make the pilgrimage.

 

Where does a figure like 99% come from? Russia has a massive population and many athletes participating in a range of sports. There can't possibly be any evidence or even compelling reasons to incriminate that many individuals.

So most likely it has been some number of athletes busted along with their coaches (a large number, I'm sure) and then somebody filling in the blanks with conjecture of it being "up to 99%" based on absolutely nothing solid to sensationalize. Just histrionics.

 

I didn't know that Mayweather, Mosley, Jones, etc. were Russians.

 

There you go, so not even somebody in a role to be compiling or evaluating data on the subject, or even somebody investigating athletes on any large scale (let alone the impossible scale of the entire host of Russian athletes...who must number in the hundreds of thousands just in professional sports, let alone the millions of amateurs)

 

Yes 99% figure has no basis in reality or fact. It's also likely with Russia now back tracking and admitting a problem exists that they will be allowed to go to Rio next year.

If they are allowed to go to Rio, it's going to be a very interesting Olympics. Even if the Russians do clean up their act, it's likely the majority of the athletes they send to Rio have at some point benefited from PED's and any victory from any Russian athlete will be likely be discredited.

 

The investigation was about track&field athletes. Not about boxers, bowlers, sumo wrestlers or any other sport. Only track&Field athletes. Not saying it would be different in other sports but this particular investigation only covered track&field olympic athletes. Sebastian Coe is threatening to ban Russians for olympic games trac&field events becuase of this. Not boxers or wrestlers or any other sport.

 

Did you read the news recently? Russian sport is up for a total ban. You'd have to read it first to get a grasp of the scope of Russian state sponsored doping. If their labs and anti doping agencies, federation, government are all complicit, whose to say anyone is clean?

 

The investigation from WADA may have been instigated due to report last year by RTL linked to Track and Field but the actual WADA investigation was directed at the RUSADA labs in Moscow which would test samples from all Olympic sports not just track and field as proven when a part of the report focused on the Sochi Winter Olympics where it seems Russian FSB agents were present in the labs.

This report has ramifications far beyond just track and field, it effects every sport that has it's samples tested at the Moscow lab.

 

It probably is very widespread but to presume guilt on the part of every individual makes for too sweeping and unfair a generalization when talking about millions. Certainly top level international athletes on successful teams & camps representing the Motherland can be scrutinized with an understanding of being more likely to have received support from such a system of corruption, as they are worth investing time & resources on...but every random person who plays anything? Millions of people? Imagining an infrastructure large enough to sustain helping that many people dope (and that's even assuming that even close to 100% of them would even agree to it and not object from a moral or self-respecting position, which is a dim view of human nature when discussing such large numbers of people) and covering it up is laughable. Tin foil hat stuff.

 

It's going to be interesting the coming weeks and months.
I still don't think the "everyone is juicing" sentiment applies, even if a lot has come to light from big names and now a big Russian scandal in the last couple of months.

Let's see what comes out of this, wich can't be good, whatever it is.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/s...onsored-doping-program-report-finds.html?_r=0

You got to read this, its freaking nutty how far the Russians went.

There's also a breakdown of violations by sport and you'll see it crosses the whole spectrum of sports. They don't list out what the "other sport is. Could boxing be lumped in there too? How could you trust anything from Russia when the corruption and criminal activity reaches beyond their labs, agencies, testers, the whole 9 yards? Read it, they used secret service as thugs for godsake.

 

Chances are the Jamaican team are roided to the gills but all we have is suspicion, suspect behaviour is not proof of wrong doing as in this case with Russia.

Also didn't the revelations of the Jamaican team only come to light after the London games? If so then how could you be suspicious of something that hadn't even happened yet? This is quite a different scenario with everyone knowing that the Russians are already cheating prior to going to the games.