Rusty Rosenberger drugged before nino gonzalez fight

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  1. James Townes

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    Book Review - Unclaimed Destiny

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    The autobiography of champion boxer Rusty Rosenberger is a must-read for fans of the sport, but even more important, this candid tale offers our cynical world a real hero. Rosenberger may have been knocked down, but not out. In Unclaimed Destiny: Heart of a Champion, Rosenberger declares his destiny was to win. By all accounts, the 1979 New Jersey Middleweight Boxing Champion should have won the World Title. Having blown away the competition in a fabulous career rise, he suddenly fell from fame. His story describes a shocking betrayal by the boxing manager he trusted. Two mysterious pills were all it took to change the outcome of history and one man's world. Rosenberger never managed to really to get his game back after Lou Duva drugged him. A series of physical and emotional hardships plagued him for years, until he turned his skills to teaching boxing for fitness, coining the Boxercise fitness craze that swept the nation in the eighties. Then he decided to tell his story. While it doesn't seem unusual that a fighter's game can be rigged, it's surprising that an amoral manager would trip his own racehorse, felling a young man's promising career in it's prime. From the standpoint of the "pen being mightier than the sword," one hopes that Rosenberger has managed to eviscerate Lou Duva in return. Rosenberger's message comes through - don't let the turkeys get you down. His tale unashamedly bares his warrior's soul, proving himself a real contender, a modern-day hero we can believe in. Rosenberger's unpretentious writing style makes for a quick, refreshing read in 156 pages.
    Jill Florio, August 2003
     
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    Rosenberger never managed to really to get his game back after Lou Duva drugged him. A series of physical and emotional hardships plagued him for years, until he turned his skills to teaching boxing for fitness, coining the Boxercise fitness craze that swept the nation in the eighties. Then he decided to tell his story. While it doesn't seem unusual that a fighter's game can be rigged, it's surprising that an amoral manager would trip his own racehorse, felling a young man's promising career in it's prime. From the standpoint of the "pen being mightier than the sword," one hopes that Rosenberger has managed to eviscerate Lou Duva in return.
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    Rusty Rosenberger, a solid, 1970's, 80's and 90's Middleweight who won New Jersey's state championship before his career went South. The book is an intriguing look at the world of boxing, from the perspective of one who was there. When I set to collect boxing books-a benefit that I can get because of my being a boxing media writer-I wanted to, among the few items I received, get some that speak about the seedy side of the sport, the ugly side that even at my age, I still wish did not exist. It is the ugly face behind the make-up, but it is there.

    Rosenberger's story reads like one of those true crime novels of old. Now, I wasn't there, and I don't want to say he is making it up, but at the same time, as a decent person, I do not want to cast doubt on a man that I barely knew in person for one second, that when I asked him for an autograph: Lou Duva. Rosenberger does a good job at that himself. That is why I recommend that you read his book. In fact, there is a rumor around the vine, that there is a sequel to the book about to come out.

    Rosengerber also makes us laugh with his tales about fights, about famous boxers and personalities from the world of boxing, such as Harry Arroyo, the former IBF Lightweight champion of the world. Rosenberger writes with wit and humor, something that, if all that he says is true, he needed very much.

    To me, the book is definitely worth a look at. It's cheap, decently written, and something to think about!
     
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    Rusty Rosenberger has a boxing story, and that story is truly a compelling one he brings to his just penned book, Unclaimed Destiny. Rosenberger a former New Jersey Middleweight Champion and upcoming prospect had it all, but as fast as the rise came, the decline came faster.

    A decline that Rosenberger claims came at the hands of a world famous boxing trainer along with manager which he described at one time, as a man he totally trusted, and would do anything he said to reach his dream of becoming a world champion.

    ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Rusty Rosenberger is a former NJ Middleweight Champion who compiled a (20-6, 10 Ko's) record in a 13 year boxing career. Currently, he is a Sergeant working in an Ohio Correctional Facility. At 47 years old, he still works out on an almost daily basis, staying in top shape.
     
  5. Saintpat

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    This is getting ridiculous.

    You want to sell some books, take out an advertisement.
     
  6. James Townes

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    WARNING - klompton2 .. For some strange reason is obsessed with knocking down Rusty.. even called him a brain damaged loser.. NICE.. He will be pinpointing quotes and busy finding errors and overstatements about Rusty potential.. So what? He passes over the most obvious ... He wasn't there! Rusty was, and he has no reason to lie.. He is an honorable and man.. You can quote me on that Klompsy.....
     
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    It's to show Klompy that others reviewed Rusty's book and not just one unknown... His story is out there. if I was trying to sell it I wouldn't do it here.. It is selling well thank you. It is translated and has solid sales.

    Yes, I re-edited this.. I took out my own troll like comments.. Sorry.
     
  8. Saintpat

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    I think you have the room filled up.
     
  9. James Townes

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    I only came in here because of Klompsy's post 4 years ago.. Rusty is a friend of mine.. Would you let what he said sit there without challenge if it was one of your friends.. Now, if anyone don't agree here.. that's fine, just don't hit Rusty below the belt...
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    You can say the same thing without being so vulgarly disrespectful.. If something I say here to defend Rusty makes you mad.. Take a deep breathe, everything well be okay.. I don't understand what makes some people mean spirited bullies on social medias .. maybe because they never spoke up to anyone's face.. and social media gives them the opportunity to say what they want anonymously. Which, by the way.. James Townes is my real name..:bbb
     
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    Yes, I re-edited this.. Took out my own troll like replies.. Saintpat can say what he wants.. I looked in the mirror and said...ohhhhh nooooo
    I'm turning into a trollllllll tooo! :patsch
     
  11. klompton2

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    I call bull****. First of all, Jones was unranked at the time. Not only was he unranked but he was WAY UNRANKED, as in he was so far below some of the other fighters like David Love (who was also unranked) he would have never been approved for a title shot. Period. Second, when you say this signing took place Corro was scheduled to face Antuofermo in Milan. That fight got delayed twice until it was finally held in Monaco in June. Furthermore, it was Hagler, who was promised a fight at the winner of Corro-Antuofermo, not unranked Reggie Jones or total nobody Rusty Rosenberger. Hagler had already been promised the winner by February of 1979, before he fought Sugar Ray Seales and BEFORE Jones and Rusty supposedly signed some piece of paper offered by "representatives" of Corro. The fact that Hagler did indeed get the title shot next proves this timeline of events, not Rusty's.

    This is ridiculous. First of all for anyone to bet a lot of money on a fight and then lose said money the odds have to justify it. Now, you admit that the bookies wouldnt put odds on the fight, which isnt surprising because the fight was so small and such a local affair that betting would have been light to non-existent. Under such circumstances why would anyone bet enough money on a fight that nobody else was betting on that if they lost theyd lose their shirt? Once you put up that kind of money the odds swing in the other direction dramatically and suddenly something looks fishy BUT you say there were no odds so who exactly was taking these non existent bets?? Sorry but that story is bogus and shows a ridiculous lack of understanding of how gambling works.

    Here youve changed your story again. Earlier you said you were going to fight someone at 166 but now you are saying you were having a title rematch for the MW title of NJ (160), this circles back to my original point that you really only needed to lose 4 pounds to get to the 156 you weighed against Nino (which was still a pound over the agreed upon weight.


    Uhhh, no you werent. They dont stick the drawing cards on undercards. By your own admission you had only fought 6 rounders prior to Jones. How do you consider yourself the top drawing card in New Jersey when you were stuck on undercards both before and after the Jones fight and against Nino Gonzalez??

    Was it a title fight at 160 or a non-title fight at 164, or 166? You seem confused about all of this.

    Again, this is your choice and by your own admission you took the fight thinking you would stop Nino early.

    No you weighed 156.

    Nino fought at 147. You say he had to gain 8 pounds for this fight (in reality he weighed 156 just like you). You fought at 160 but dont want to acknowledge that in reality you only had to take off 4 pounds to get to the 156 you weighed in at. Yet you use Nino's fight weight as the guide for what he had to add. Whats good for the goose... This also totally ignores that just a year earlier Nino was fighting at 130 and was such a small WW that he never struggled to make the limit. He was taking just as much of a risk moving UP to fight a more experienced MW as you were to move down and fight a significantly smaller WW.

    Now, back to the betting, again, who puts odds on a local undercard bout like that and who bets on it in the manner you suggest so as to win such a huge amount of money based on your supposed 7-3 odds? Sorry but it doesnt happen. Your fight was so inconsequential that its doubtful odds were offered, if they were betting would have been light, and if there was betting the mob laying all of this money on Nino would have wildly swung the odds by fight time. Again, none of this hoakum you are trying to tie to gambling adds up. Its the stuff of bad fiction.
     
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    So he gave you the pills after the weigh in. You said they were diuretics and you took them to make weight. Now you are saying he flat out drugged you after the weigh in on the day of the fight... This all ignores the fact that Duva, at this point, was a hard working, hard scrabble, blue collar promoter/manager who had a tiny stable of fighters, no more than a handful. He worked his ass off in order to get business off the ground while working for the Union and working as a bail bondsman. His entire boxing business was dependant on that stable of a handful of fighters in order to fill dates. It makes no sense whatsoever that he would take one of those fighters (which constituted about 1/3 of his stable, and a guy who claims to have been the biggest draw in NJ) and torpedo him. He might as well flush his business down the toilet because small timers like Duva rely on their stable. It was exactly how Duva's business eventually took off as he partnered with concert promoter Shelly Finkel and they got the ESPN contract to promote shows at Ice World. You need fighters to fill dates and Lou sabatoging his supposed drawing card in a tiny stable would significantly impact his business. Sorry but it wouldnt happen. So much of what you say is entirely contradictory if you know what you are talking about.





    Basically the whole scenario you describe and want to blame on Duva is really your doing and all of your conspiracy theories dont add up. You cut weight, you even admit that Duva said if you didnt you couldnt fight which was your choice. You cut weight, you lost, and you suffered the consequences. I dont ever want to see a boxer permanently hurt but I cant stand when people will make up a bunch of garbage to justify why they lost and especially when they blame someone else. Thats just a cop out. Why drag someone elses name through the mud and make up a bunch of garbage to make it seem like forces larger than yourself were aligned against you? Yeah, its sad you have brain damage but that doesnt give you the right to slander people and lie about yourself.
     
  13. mcvey

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    I don't wish to be rude mate but when I read the headline,
    Rusty Rosenberger I thought it was a fictional character.I've never heard of him and to be honest I couldn't care less about him.

    Face it pal nobody here gives a sh*t.:-( Jog on.:good
     
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    How do you think he'd do against Tom McMustache? I'm thinking about starting that thread.