Ruthless Royalty: Hamed vs Robinson

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  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    When he fought MAB he was a shell of the boxer he once was, lacked dedication, let his weight balloon, brought it down too quickly, and went into battle with fragile hands. Yes, MAB was by far the best he had faced but that fight was not a fair reflection of Hamed's standing. The hands issue aside, this give him no excuse as it was his choice to let a God-given talent slide. The biggest weakness in his boxing DNA was his application to the sport and failing to live the life between fights.
     
  2. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No matter what excuses (and there are so many excuses) you and his other fans make for him, Hamed was an idiot in the ring that relied on his talent and power, and was exposed as such by MAB.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    You wrote a sentence and said precisely nothing. Well done...
     
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  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wrote the truth. Too bad you're offended
     
  5. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Potential is nothing without application. At the top level talent is nothing u less you are dedicated. As all elite are talented and dedicated.

    You can make excuses for him but the fact remains he didn't have the staying power required and would never make it. It's the most important part of the puzzle
     
  6. DoubleJab666

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    Not offended in the slightest. I've really not invested as much in this thread as you presume. Or indeed, as much as you...
     
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  7. Orca

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    Eh? Your post makes no sense.

    Hamed won multiple world titles and 16 world title fights and he was 'exposed' by MAB? No, he just got beat by a better fighter on the night. The word exposed is the most overused word in boxing next to 'great'. Jeff Lacy was Exposed, Gerry Cooney was exposed, Jorge Luis Gonzalez was exposed. You can't say a guy with all those defenses under his belt, was exposed. That just takes away from MAB's win. Marco may well have beaten Hamed at any point in the Prince's career but the version he did beat was a shell of the guy from the mid 90's.

    Hamed had a good career man but let himself and his fans down with the early retirement, the lack of discipline, his actions outside the ring, the over reliance on power etc. He didn't look after himself between fights and it showed. If it wasn't for his power, he would have been beating a couple of years before the MAB fight. He was the kind of guy that needed to be kept busy. In 1997 he had 5 world title fights against respectable competition with a combined record of 171-13 and ko'd all of them. That was a decent year but the cracks were starting to show. Still, keeping him busy with a minimum of 3 fights a year would have helped him later. One of the uk's greatest and most accomplished fighters and also one of it's biggest underachievers.
     
  8. Clinton

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    You forgot to include what an idiot he was. Plus he was exposed by a great fighter.
     
  9. Orca

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    I don't think you get the meaning of exposed. MAB was a better fighter. Hamed isn't an atg but he was a very good fighter on his best night. He looked very beatable before MAB got to him. He wasn't exposed, he was just beaten by a better fighter. Does this confuse you?

    As for the idiot thing, what do you have in mind?
     
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  10. Clinton

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    I actually agree with this post. Hamed was very good, not great. And that's due to his lack of ring IQ. He had excellent power, good reflexes, quick hands and feet, but lacked the intelligence that would have made him an ATG. Fact is, his supporters always make many excuses for the MAB loss. THAT'S why he was exposed. He couldn't keep up with MAB because of his lack of intelligence. MAB made him look amateurish and he couldn't cope. But his supporters always make excuses for that performance.
     
  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    MAB was a great fighter. I wouldn't call Naz exposed in the same vein as Ronda Rousey, but his style and dedication was shown to have flaws against an ATG who boxed to a very clear gameplan. If Naz had landed one of those freakish power shots on the button that fight may have been very different.

    MAB was a lot more reckless against El Terrible.
     
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  12. Clinton

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    Lol, what Hamed never landed on Barrera when they fought? He wasn't a great fighter. He was too stupid and too fundamentally unsound to be one. He was very good due to his talent. He would ALWAYS be exposed against great technicians that knew how to box. He's lucky he left just when the fab 4 were on the rise (although one of them caught him lol) because he would have been exposed for his lack of boxing IQ and fundamentals on numerous occasions.
     
  13. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OT here but I am trying to recall a Naz fight involving multiple clones of him. Does anyone remember his opponent for that fight?