Ryan García Quesada vs Óscar Duarte Jurado & Shane Donte Mosley Jr vs Joshua Earl O'Brien Conley RBR

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    None of the descriptions of the fight are very surprising. García fighting scared after his Tank experience next time in with even a raw puncher..
    and sloppy ass Duarte being unable to land and ultimately blundering into a fast counter and getting stopped. Went almost exactly to script; both major pro wrestling brands put on harder to pick matches in the last week. :sisi1
     
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  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes
     
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  3. lobk

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    Co-main lasted a minute in 1st rnd.
     
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Duarte was not sloppy, he just couldn't set his feet to throw punches.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I was going by his past highlights that I'd scouted. He didn't exactly strike me as the world's deftest sharpshooter.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Free Smurk

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    My boy Ryan is back
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah, he's one dimensional. But as far as his punches, he is very compact, but he needs to set his feet otherwise he will not throw.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    He took on a compact relentless pressure fighter with KO power tonight in his first fight since being stopped. He took next to no damage and won by the KO. Duarte is basically a double barrel hook monster, he took half of them to the back and the other half to his arms guarding his gut and chin. Yeah his strategy might not have looked good on camera, but it got the job done now didn't it?
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Not sure about that. He's much faster and hits harder than Haney and Prograis and we all saw what Kambosos' check left hook and Sandor's check right hook did to Teofimo. I wouldn't write him off against any of those guys. Matias is probably the worst fight imaginable for him, but he even has a slight chance there. Matias has a tendency to eat a hell of a lot of leather in the first two or three rounds, flush. So it isn't far fetched Ryan Garcia becoming the kingpin at 140.
     
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  10. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Mannix height is way off.

    Hes about 6'1/ 6'2
     
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  11. turbotime

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    All I could focus on was the tireless phrase "Mayweather shell defense" like it was the first time they ever saw it? it goes back the 1920s, its a Philly shell. I had to put it on mute. Good on Garcia though. He needed this.
     
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  12. oldcanvasback

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    i was thinking that too.
     
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  13. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    I'm convinced that Haney is a robot. Nothing he says seems natural.
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Vargas was not an elite fighter Full Member

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    Not till he beats a fighter as good as Tank.
     
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  15. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    He looked good. People love to hate on him because, well, he’s a really talented, good looking, and popular guy who gets by on these things a bit more than we like to see.. Getting stopped by Tank doesn’t make a fighter suck, and in spite of his lacking in some areas - this guy is our her making fights happen and chasing challenges….. wish all of them did that.

    His offense and feet looked good as expected, and even improved a bit, although he still got a bit too open at times, and a better fighter would be able to capitalize.

    His defense is still lackluster if you get past his offense and feet - which most fighters won’t be able to do. He did a good job of sticking to his game plan and controlling distance and using his jab.

    Overall - he’s still an underdog, albeit a live one against any of the top guys, but is showing improvement.. Id like to see him have another fight or two at this level before stepping up against Haney, Teo, or Tank, etc.. His defense really does need some work even at a fundamental level.

    Even if he didn’t improve at all, he’s one of the most offensively gifted fighters in the division, and you can never count someone like that out.
     
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