Ryan Garcia @ 140?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TipNom, Apr 24, 2023.


What Level Do You Believe Ryan Will Reach @ 140lbs?

  1. Undisputed Champion

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  2. Unified Champion

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  3. Title Holder

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  4. Contender

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  5. Gatekeeper/Fringe Contender

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  1. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    Garcia claimed he intends on moving up to 140 full time after his loss to Davis. How does everybody see him doing at the weight? Can he atleast manage to win a title there?

    Currently Josh Taylor holds the WBO title and will put it on the line against Teofimo Lopez in not too long.

    Albert Puello holds the WBA title

    Subriel Matias holds the IBF title

    And Regis Prograis holds the WBC title

    How does Ryan Garcia do against these guys?
     
  2. Ricdog

    Ricdog Active Member Full Member

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    None, he's a journeyman now. His career at the top is over. He had a lot of promise, but all the questions I had of him were answered against Davis. The rumors were true, he is an untrainable fighter with no ring IQ.

    All his close advisors (including Golden Boy) told him not to take this fight, he took it anyway and lost big time. All his coaches told him to stick to the game plan and box, he lasted 1 round before getting reckless in round 2 and payed for it (he himself admitted this). Canelo said that Ryan was arrogant and would focus on jogging rather than listen Reynoso about what to work on, Goosen confirmed this about Ryan in his interviews. Goosen said Ryan does his own workout routines because "Ryan has his own way of doing things".

    Ryan won't learn anything from his fights because he isn't a student, he doesn't let others tell him what to do. Such mentality cannot learn boxing because there is no change in habits. Fighters that grow are those that actually listen to their corners and try to implement the advice given to them. Ryan, by his very own admission, does not and admits he easily gets carried away and does what he wants.
     
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  3. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He could conceivably beat any one of those guys, but only if he learns from the Davis loss and works hard.

    He has to really want it, of course. He has time to learn & develop.
     
  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garcia is a fighter with good pop and some gifted physical attributes but suspect chin, liver and heart.

    He needs to have a long talk with himself and figure out if he wants to become and accomplished boxer or a wealthy "influencer".
     
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  5. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    This guy might not be champ anymore soon, actually. He failed a drug test so he's been replaced in the Romero fight, which is apparently still going ahead on the 13th. Still not sure what's happening with the title if they strip him though, at first it seemed like Romero and Barroso were gonna fight for it but then I read something else saying it might be between two other people at a later date, or maybe even Romero-Barroso would be rescheduled for it. But hey, with boxing, who the hell knows.

    On topic, I don't given Garcia too much of a chance at the top right now. Prograis, Matias and Taylor all decimate him. But as far as the future goes, he could recover from this as long as he's willing to improve his game and maybe stick with a plan instead of recklessly abandoning it. He's young, so he's still got time to improve as long as he's willing to put in the work.
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He needs to step down the competition for a couple of fights @ 140lbs - work on fundamentals & gain some seasoning as he properly acclimates himself to the weight.

    before he even thinks about taking on any of the real killers at jr welter.
     
  7. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Golden Boy might be able to buy a vacant title for him or get him a fight with a weak champion in the future…

    But he’ll never be considered THE champion in any weight class. I’ve strongly questioned his mentality and heart in the past, the Tank fight only affirmed my suspicions.
     
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  8. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    I don't understand why he hasn't improved his boxing technique yet... he has a bad posture... he lowers his hands... he doesn't rotate his waist to hit with more force... he doesn't have footwork... he has the punch, the speed and a respectable punch resistance but I feel like he has a lot of work to do... he says he will take two fights and then go for a good fighter... nk it's about having more experience it's about learning to box.
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    KingRy destroys Josh Taylor..
     
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  10. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His stance is no good.
     
  11. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When I seen the Sugar Ray video, :facepalm:
     
  12. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t think his chin is suspect at all. Yea, he got knocked down, but he got up just as quick as he was knocked down. He wasn’t dazed, didn’t wobble, didn’t stagger. He took that punch as well anyone could have. That punch knocks out mostly everyone else. He got up from it and came right back into the fire and stood right in front of Tank. But I agree that his heart is very suspect. I see Victor Ortiz jr now. Physical abilities all around but that’s it. Of course he can make a huge comeback but he has some growing up to do.
     
  13. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i wouldnt bet on him vs any of them or teo
     
  14. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He will not win a title unless he improves his offense and learns some defense. He has a lot of work to do.