Ryan Garcia vs. Javier Fortuna & Ricardo Rafael Sandoval vs. David Jimenez RBR.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also Lopez probably was overconfident after beating Loma, and got complacent. Lopez was out of the ring for over a year between the Loma fight and the Kambosos fight, a lot can change in a year, I think ring rust was a factor in his loss to Kambosos, and overconfidence after beating what was, lets face it, an injured Loma.
     
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  2. bandeedo

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    i dont think ryan is cerebral at all. may be in a sense that you give him some punches or combinations to throw and he goes out and looks for openings to throw em.
    i can see why someone could favor haney, ryan looks vulnerable at times, and haney is more polished. but i see all the tools ryan needs to beat haney, an hes got an excellent set. and i think the wrinkles can get ironed out by the right coach by the time they meet.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, I mean you could say Ryan is "somewhat" cerebral but compared to Tank he's not as cerebral as Tank. Tank's concentration is far better than Ryan's. Tank isn't as vulnerable to being caught with big shots as Ryan is.
     
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  4. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    I’ve never mentioned Broner. Are you sure you can read?
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never said you mentioned him. The guy i replied to did and called Haney a "pillowfisted Broner".

    That isn't to say i disagree that Haney is pillowfisted
     
  6. Betyabeatyaup

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    It’s easy for Haney to escape from getting knocked out over three rounds, with bigger gloves and a child version of Garcia. The fact that they were competitive in the amateurs is evidence in itself of how superior Garcia is as a pro. Power and chin make more of a difference in the pros, amateurs are about skills.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

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    Since everyone is tossing out triangles theories like they're going out of style.... how about this one?

    JoJo pounded on Fortuna like a maniac, in a toe to toe slugfest for 12 rounds, Fortuna was never fazed by anything JoJo landed.

    JoJo had Haney in retreat for all 12 rounds, performed far better against him than Kambosos did, and the shots that had no effect on Fortuna, were rocking Haney every time they landed clean.

    Garcia landed a jab, Fortuna **** his pants and had no desire to engage, hauled ass. Kingry walked him down, dropped him three times and stopped him with ease.

    You know what that means! Diaz couldn't hurt Fortuna, Diaz hurt Haney several times, Ryan hits roughly 150 times harder than JoJo. He KO's Haney with a glancing hook.:deal:
     
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  8. Betyabeatyaup

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    Strong disagree, I think Tank is as dumb as a bag of rocks both in and out of the ring.
    I’ve never seen evidence of Tank’s alleged devastating power or his counter punching unless he has a defenseless face first fighter falling in. Tank has never fought a puncher or a decent opponent. We saw how hesitant Tank was against Cruz (who I think beat him), and how ineffective Tank was against a one legged Gamboa. I’ve seen Tank stunned before, so I don’t know why you think he has such a solid chin (especially considering his caliber of opponent).
     
  9. IsaL

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  10. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    You replied to me. I called Haney pillow fisted and compared him to Paulie and Bradley. Are you drunk?
     
  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No i replied to someone else and you replied to me first

    Go back to page 48 bro
     
  12. IsaL

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    Those are my thoughts also
     
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  13. Betyabeatyaup

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    Yes, I asked you a question - you think he isn’t featherfisted (in response to you saying he isn’t a ‘featherfisted Broner’) and if so can you explain why? To that you clarify and respond with ‘no it’s the Broner part I disagree with, not the featherfisted part’ (which raises the question why you would include featherfisted in the first place if it’s simply the Broner part you disagree with).
    I compared him to Paulie and Bradley. Instead of clarifying and then addressing what I said, you responded to me as if I made claims about Broner. That’s why there is confusion here - because you can’t read (something you accused me of first).
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This gets us nowhere. If you actually read my previous comments i already said Haney is pillowfisted and It's the Broner part i disagree with. Theres your answer

    Theres no point in continuing.
     
  15. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, you wasted our time. Did you expect me to memorize every previous post you had made today when I was referring to a post I replied to?