Ryan Garcia vs Luke Campbell - Big opportunity or big mistake?

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Is Garcia ready for Cambell?

  1. Garcia will KO Cambell with his counter hooks

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  2. Cambell will beat Garcia by controlling space with his lead hand etc.

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  1. touch_of_sleep

    touch_of_sleep New Member Full Member

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    Loma struggled to get past the lead hand because he is not a lightweight and he has much shorter arms than all these guys. Garcia is the same size as Campbell and doesn't have to get past the lead hand to connect.
     
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  2. touch_of_sleep

    touch_of_sleep New Member Full Member

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    I'm just saying that I had Campbell winning 2 rounds against Lomachenko. I don't see it as a massive accomplishment. Yes, he shared the ring with him.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma was struggling until he hurt Cambell in the 5th.
     
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  4. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Speed volume size and youth can offset alot.
     
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  5. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Luke Cambell lost 9-10 rounds to Lomachenko. He was competitive with Linares but clearly lost. His best win was either Darlys Perez or avenging Yvan Mendy.

    This fight is not above Garcia's head. If Ryan Garcia can't pick up this win then he's probably John Molina level.
     
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  6. touch_of_sleep

    touch_of_sleep New Member Full Member

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    He lost 2 rounds. I guess that may constitute as struggling for a guy who is fighting out of his weight class.
     
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    A fight that should happen. Where he can lose
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The rounds were close up till the 5th when Loma adapted.
     
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  9. touch_of_sleep

    touch_of_sleep New Member Full Member

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    Okay. So Campbell took 2 rounds off Lomachenko. Let him get in the ring with Ryan Garcia. I'll put my money on Ryan.
     
    touch_of_sleep, Jul 22, 2020
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Well, officially Campbell lost to Linares because of the KD. It´s what cost him that night.
    But while he did give Loma a good fight, he lost the majority of the rounds.

    However, Garcia can´t just do what he usually does. That is bait the opponent to throw so he can counter with that left hook. He will have to do more to beat someone like Campbell.
     
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  11. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets not forget Ryan is a lot bigger than Loma so it will be easier for him to get past Luke's jab
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He`ll take more than two rounds off Garcia because Loma is far more skilled than Garcia.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The jab is the best way to exploit your reach because it`s the longest punch you can throw, Garcia`s jab isn`t as good as Loma`s or used as consistently, every time his lead hand is inactive Cambell`s will be feinting and jabbing, Garcia prefers to wait and counter with the hook, which is an inside punch and not as long as a jab, Garcia has no idea how to use his reach.
     
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  14. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying that this has to be the next step in the progression for Ryan Garcia. He'll be 22 with over 4yrs as a pro and is in the top 5 in the rankings. This is the fight he has to make...and win.

    If he's just a counter check hooker then he's going down.

    I just hate the people saying this fight is too dangerous and he should keep fighting tomato cans.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    100% agree.
    My issue with this fight would be that Garcia is going from 0 to a 100 here. Prospects should be brought up a bit more gradually.

    Imo, Ryan has plenty of talent. A loss here likely wont mean much. Probably would be good for him(that being if he still relies only on the check hook).

    This fight will have been too soon, only Ryan ends up taking a beating. Loosing a competitive fight is completely fine.
     
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