Hi guys been on these forums for a while but this is my first post How many people on these forums actually box? Amatuer boxers I'm looking for? Out of curiosity do you guys do much S&C in your training schedules? Iv just started it 3 times a week it's hard as I'm not the most athletic dude but think this will really help me. Only thing that worries me is I don't have as much time for roadwork just curious how fighters on here get a balance between the two?
Why do you not think its neccessery? To be honest with you the improvements in my fitness since I started doing the S&C has made me wonder if I could get away with not doing much running
I have some am fights. Roadwork can/needs to be shorter in duration. Concentrate on intervals. With S&C, it should NEVER come at the expense of skill work or sparring. Want to become a boxer? One must box.
Oh, and RE: "roadwork" as long, slow running... Focus more on footwork. Most neglected aspect of boxing these days. Too many punch before they can move their feet. If you do good footwork drills, you will get plenty of "conditioning". Just my opinion. Some may vary.
Completely agree that's why every evening I'm in the boxing gym mon-thurs sometimes Friday night. My S&C is something I do on a morning three times a week mon,wed,fri with a pt.
I don't know. Do you? Do what you think works best for you, **** what anyone else says. For years I've been spreading advice given by fitness "experts" stating "well this book says this" **** that. Lately I've been training with parameters all experts rail against. By their ways of thought I should be a wreck by now yet I'm getting bigger and stronger week by week and getting the best results I've ever had. Basically, if you feel you can drop roadwork completely then do it, don't feel the need to do it just because Ali, Tyson, Maywether did/does it. Same goes for any other aspects of your training.
Interesting points dude, my coaches are a couple of guys in there 50's who know boxing inside and out but don't have much knowledge on modern day training or nutrition and they keep telling me to scrap the S&C and stick with the tried and tested methods of just hitting the concrete! I'm enjoying the S&C and I think it's doing wonders for my overall strength and fitness so think I'm going to stick with it
In my opinion, both are important. I dropped roadwork over the holidays, because my knee was giving me issues. I stuck entirely with high intensity conditioning thinking this was all I needed to do. I found that although my anaerobic conditioning was good, my ability to recover between flurries and rounds had weakened noticeably. I had a fight in April and was seriously gassed, despite normally being known as a fighter with excellent cardio. As recently as a few months ago, I used to think roadwork was not important and that 'establishing an aerobic base' was a myth. But from experience, you can't do one without the other. Now that i've resumed my roadwork, I am back to my old form and haven't had issues with gassing. So is roadwork absolutely necessary? Maybe not absolutely necessary, but I do think there's a great benefit to doing both slow/steady aerobic exercise coupled with high intensity anaerobic exercise. Whether you get it from running, or another form - it's a good idea. As Longjab suggests, shorter distances are more than enough, no need to run marathons. 5 km is fine. Try to run it in 25 mins or less. Maybe incorporate slow-fast intervals using a timer or by counting street lamps. You get the best of both worlds. Also, like Virus suggests - what works for one person may not work best for another - so take the advice with a grain of salt and really see what works best for you. Lastly, I don't mean to sound rude - but it sounds like you've taken well to Virus' response, because it's what you wanted to hear. That roadwork isn't necessary. We may have different viewpoints on this, but we both agree that it's up to the individual. So don't give up on roadwork because one person said it's not necessary. It's worth trying it for a few weeks and see if there's any noticeable improvement, and if not, then maybe you're fine without it. Probably 80% of boxers - like you, hate doing roadwork. Many do it because they realize how much better their conditioning improves as a result. So don't look for excuses not to do something. If you hate doing something, that's probably a good reason why you SHOULD be doing it.
Hi mate thanks for your input. Actually to be honest iv always done my roadwork I use to be out 4 mornings a week sprints or jogs and like u suggested i always did 5k but always tried beating my times so it was a hard jog. I would nt say I hate it certainly dont love it but don't hate doing it at all. Iv never doing conditioning work like this before and I'm really enjoying it so ideally I would like to find a balance of both, you seem to know you're stuff what do you think of doing S&C 3 mornings a week and road work 2 times?
This. People worry too much about conditioning. They do their S&C to the point their actual boxing training suffers. You want to throw a **** load of punches per round? Practice throwing a **** load of punches per round, don't go for a 10 mile jog like most do.
Thanks for clarifying. I admit I was also putting words into your mouth - and I realize that you never actually said you "hate" roadwork. That routine you suggested sounds a lot like what I do each week. So again, it depends on the individual, but that seems to work well for me personally. I can also relate when you say you're not the most athletic person. I was never naturally athletic, and didn't play any sports when I was younger. But I manage to make up for a lot of it thru strength & conditioning. IMO it's hard to beat natural athleticism, but it's absolutely possible to do with the right training.
I hear ya bud and I do agree. This applied when I had a fight coming up in 4 weeks......training definitely became more specific to boxing. But if no fight was on the near horizon, training was more general I.e. weights, roadwork. And I hate fukn roadwork. But it did make recovery better between rounds with that aerobic base. As I get older, I've got to break up training I.e. cross training, to avoid overuse. General vs. specific preparation. Thanks for the good read fellas.
