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On anything specifically? :?

 

As a matter of fact, yes. Read through my comments and explain to me how Andre Ward is such a hometown fighter.

 

Don't really remember saying he was or that it was a particuarly bad thing if we define him as such (especially at this point in his career, though I do hope he will be more adventurous as time goes on)?

I said he didn't seem like the 'exact opposite of a home town fighter' in my last post on the subject, which was about six pages ago and asked a few questions:

Still not aware of any examples for Ward. Any you got? Distance is not always a good indicator. A trip across the other side of the USA is not necessarily going out of the comfort zone. A short trip is not necessarily staying in it. If Ward went to fight a Mexican on a local promotion in Tijuana, for example, the distance would be less, but the journey outside the comfort zone much more. As I said previously, pretty much every fighter with any pedigree is a hometown fighter in the meaning in which people intend that phrase. Every fighter would rather have things stacked in his favour. Those who aren't are those that don't have the option.

Quite amused that you listed Kessler as a hometown fighter though considering the amount of times he has taken his titles to fight in a challengers hometown. That's the kind of thing that really counts, not where you fight on an undercard when you're coming up and no-one is there that really cares anyway.

 

To me fighting in another country is just that.... fighting in another country ! It has nothing to do with the population numbers within a state or country. It's about different official borders, different patriotism, culture, etc...

That's the reason why when fighters go abroad to fight in another country, and no matter which state it is in, the team most often demands to keep the "judge scene" fair, which means the fewest judges from the same country as the home country boxer, if possible at the time.

 

So you are saying fighting Pavlik in Ohio is the same as fighting Pavlike in Las Vegas. So if Pavlik fought Ward in Las Vegas who gets the hometown advantage since they are both American????

In the US fighting in your hometown means A TON more than fighting just anywhere in the US. Hell if Erik Morales, a Mexican fought almost ANY AMerican fighter in San Antonio he would have the home field advantage.

However if he fought them in New Jersey he would be the villian.

Keith

 

It is not less the number of people living in a area than the specific national or ethnic group living in the same area.When Ward was at Athens, he was not a californian but an american representing all the american nation, and then, we can say that all americans was proud of him.
Bute is a Romanian living in the province of Quebec, Canada, where there is the specific major national group who is french-speaking; The hometown of Bute is Montreal but he can fight in a city (Quebec city) who is about 200 miles, and sold 15,000 ticket in a day. But if Bute goes at Ottawa or Toronto who are near from Montreal, but in the English part of Canada, he is only known by the hard boxing fans.
I agree that Bute at now is a hometown fighter, but I think the same of Ward. In the Ward's case, it is only if he fights a famous fighter from another state in this state with local referee and judges that the situation can be a little more risky for him, but because of his gold medal, Ward specially enjoy in his professionnal career of the national rising star status
In the Bute's case, to prevent all contoversy after Bute-Andrade 1, they choose an american referee and an american judge for all the others fights.