Saúl Álvarez vs JERMELL Charlo - September 30 // MGM Grand Arena

Cash out fight in my book typical Ginger pick on the little guys

 

Canelo will be 180 probably should never be sanctioned

 

‘Acclimatisation” is literally just a fighter taking more time to put on more mass. Stamina and speed aren’t effected like you think it is, it’s size and consequently strength that is gained from acclimatising. It’s what we have going on with Crawford right now where he’s saying making 147 is getting difficult, as he’s as big and strong as he’s ever been at the weight. It’s just fighter’s seeing how big they can get while still fitting into the division.

If Charlo acclimatises to 168, he’ll be legitimately bigger than Canelo, but like I said, every time you put on more mass, the slower and less mobile you get, as we see, Crawford isn’t stutter stepping or as energetic as he was when he first moved up to fight Horn (without acclimatisation), and neither is Canelo as mobile as he was at 160 or even since his first move to 168.

I don’t think all this extra preparation is required. And I didn’t see anyone complaining about acclimatisation anytime Canelo jumped straight to a champion at 175lbs. Neither did I expect it from Canelo. Charlo’s Speed and Stamina will be affected either way, and will probably be at it’s best in the first move up (unless he puts on too much weight to start). But whatever the weight, considering how many times Jermell has been hurt and who he’s been hurt by, who he’s dropped decisions to, how badly he was getting pieced up by Harrison in the rematch etc, I won’t be surprised if Canelo ends up destroying him.

 

I disagree.

 

Told you, I rate him more than you do.

 

I rate him more than you do.

 

Free DAZN over here

 

Also "Acclimatisation" isn't just putting on more mass when it relates to boxing. It's conditioning your body to take punches from guys who have been in canelos case, moving up in weight throughout the years. This is Jermells 1st time out of the weight class as a pro, it's not going to end well for him.

 

The punch resistance is covered with the strength, but when you’re skilled enough, you’re skilled enough. And I gave you a good list of plenty of guys who jumped as much or more weight without acclimatisation.

 

Just because you're a bulked up strong guy doesn't mean you can take the punch.

 

No. It’s plenty of factor’s, but what do you think you are doing when you “tuck your chin”, besides obviously removing the angle of getting clipped on the chin and having your jaw pulled on, you bring your head closer to your core to minimise whiplash. When you see Juan Manuel Marquez Oscar De La Hoya and Danny Garcia clench their jaw’s and neck’s to where punches bounce off their head’s, the more strength you have the more effective that is. The more muscle in your midsection, the better you can take a bodyshot.

Now try being nice and relaxed without exerting any strength while getting hit, you’ll probably get KO’d cold.

if you’re weak, you can tense and a guy will still overwhelm your neck muscles and twist your head regardless.

Also better stamina you have the longer you can stay strong. Thus being very strong with great stamina is key to having a great chin.

 

Canelo used to come in the ring at 180 when he fought at 154, according to Liam Smith and Oscar. This narrative that a 154 fighter will be bigger than the 168 champ is hilarious. Will be even funnier when Charlo does not even weight in at the 168 limit.

 

SO you're saying that a 154lbr can easily "come in the ring" at 180 but just not Jermell, is that about right? lol

 

Good post and that poll makes it clear that Charlo is seen as the bigger fighter, despite several posters trying to argue to the contrary.

The only thing you said that doesn't seem right is about Jermell being at a massage reach disadvantage. He actually has the reach advantage, a 73" reach to Canelo's 70½".