Safety,Commisions, weighin's, hydration??

So is beating drug testing. If making weight is hurting fighters then it needs to be addressed. I think there is evidence it robs the sport of better performances.

 

I think both the commisions and the fighter can be at fault here.

I actually would like the same day weigh in rule. It's probably much safer, and much closer to how they handled it back in the earlier days of boxing.

This way, we can also more honestly assess a mythical fantasy match up of 2 fighters from different eras. I mean a truly natural welterweight legend from the 1950's will be at a disadvantage against a modern day welterweight legend who walks around the ring 15+ pounds heavier than when he weighed in the day before.

I think they do this day before weigh in for promotional purposes, so that the newspapers the next day wil have weigh in pics and articles about the fight.

Although enforcing same day weigh ins today means about 80% of today's fighters will adjust their weight class and go up 1 or 2 divisions, overnight. Nearly every world title will be vacated.

And it's also the fighter's fault. Because if he's having such a hard time fighting in that weight class, he should just go up in weight already and save his body from extra punishment.

 

Yep, it's a real hard one to manage, because guys will try to cheat the system no matter what you do, or how much you try to protect them.

I agree taht guys that fight closer to their 'real' weight must have some advantage over a guy that struggles.

I thought Hatton looked awful in the weigh in for the Pac fight. That's not an excuse, Pac would beat him every day of the week fighting the way Hatton did that night, but it can't be doing him any good.

Kostya Tszyu only failed to make the weight first go in 2 fights. And lost them both.

There should be a maximum weight that fighters can enter the ring at above the weight class. Whether it's in pounds, or a percentage of body weight, I don't know, that's for a doctor to know.

But if you have to weight in at 147, and can only come in at say 155 - that should cut out a lot of it.

And if guys want to come in still drained? Well, what can you do about that?

 

I believe the system is supposed to work that way. You trade off unstressed full conditioning against size advantage.

If you want size advantage in a class be prepared for unhealthy de-re-hydration cycles. If not, fight in your optimal class but be prepared to be out-sized at times.

Imo the current system is adequate. It is up to the boxers to be responsible for themselves.

 

Its hard to cut weight and be hydrated. To lose 20 to 40 pounds fast is not healthy and once your body fat is under 7 your basically starving and not drinking water.

 

WTF are you talking about? He was weight drained for PAC yet fought at 135 against Raheem and looked like a fool. GTFO with that ****!

 

Nice subtle trolling Divac. You need help.

 

Joey Gamache is sort of an example of this his opponent gained 20 lbs between weigh in and the fight. This ruined his career.

He received a 2 million dollar settlement
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/m...ak_silence_in_court_battle_against_nysac.html

 

The dehydration and subsequent rehydration is a massive danger for boxers. It's disgraceful this is the way the commissions choose to organize it. It's incredibly dangerous.

The weigh-in should either be two days before, to allow full rehydration, or on the same day to avoid dehydration. The way it is now, it's too easy for boxers to dehydrate and expect to out the weight back on and be fine. Sadly, this is a massive reason behind brain damage.

 

I used to go without water for a very long time, yet run 10.5 miles, spit a lot, your urine would burn, became very difficult.

 

What for

did you box

 

This is very hard to control. Years ago, weight in was held the morning of the fight. But you have to remember that most fighters are very poor people that are desperate to make it big and get some money to support their families. So, boxers were making weight and stepping into the ring without enough recovery time to hydrate themselves. Very dangerous situation. Now, they have 24 hours, but they are going even lower in weight. Its really crazy. Especially in countries like Mexico, where regulations exists but are rarelly enforced, promoters grab those poor kids from the poor neighborhoods, many of them without any education, and destroy them.
Eric Morales is not an stupid guy. He did this by choice. Of course, pushed by a good pay day.

 

I think it's simply more unorganized chaos. IIRC, the IBF does have rules on rehydration (allowed to rehydrate no more than 10% of official weight or something like that) and some territories actually do same day weigh-ins, but in the morning rather than just before the fight.