Salido-Garcia will be for the Ring Belt

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  1. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what does everyone think about this? Obviously, the elephant in the room is that Chris John is the longest reigning titleholder in the sport that's basically just being passed over. I know John is a lightning rod for criticism for some on here, but realistically, it's going to be hard to get the top quality fights for John...he did come to American twice on short money and was robbed with the draw decision against Juarez in their first fight...so there's not exactly a big incentive for him to visit the states again. Anyways, here are some quotes from the Ring panel about it:

    Ryan Songalia: "I believe (Salido-Garcia) should be for THE RING belt because of Chris John's open statements that he has no interest in facing the best of the division. I think he's most interested in fighting in Singapore, getting money from the new casino there, and retiring unbeaten.”"

    Ryan Maquinana: "Ever since that brief foray into America when he fought Juarez, John has willfully chosen to stay in Southeast Asia (where hardly enough challenges remain to elevate his standing at 126). Ideally, you'd like to have John fight No. 1 for a vacant title, but since there's virtually no shot of that happening, I'm OK with THE RING belt on the line for Salido-Garcia"

    Anson Wainwright: John doesn't seem likely to look to fight any of the top guys. His last few fights have been against guys who aren't close to being top ten ranked by THE RING, such as (Stanyslav) Merdov (32-7), (Shoji) Kimura (24-4-2), and (Chonlatarn) Piriyapinyo (44-0 - though he had beat nobody noteworthy himself).”

    Martin Mulcahey: "Should all boxers be judged on the region they box in instead of their worthiness? Just because John boxes in Asia (where he makes more money – the sport is still prizefighting so you go where money is) does not diminish his achievements"

    "“I question how Salido ever got rated above John in the first place to merit this RING belt shot? Salido has Juan Manuel Lopez's (who had all of two title defenses at featherweight) number but otherwise John has a superior resume, and it was Gamboa who did not want to fight John, not the other way around. Then you have Mikey Garcia, who has not really beaten anyone to compare with John's resume getting an opportunity to jump John without facing him. I doubt this would be happening if we were talking about an American boxer who used his economic clout – like say Roy Jones or Hall of Famer Orlando Canizales – to box in the USA in front of American audiences. I think John's skills and resume are just too good to be ignored, and honestly Saldio is not exactly a world beater to represent THE RING belt. Garcia can be but he is still young."

    "“Why can't Salido or Garcia fight John in Singapore where there is plenty of money to stage such a fight? Why is it up to John to lose money to fight in American again! When is the last time we demanded this of an American boxer, like say Andre Ward for the Mikkel Kessler or Arthur Abraham bouts, when those fights would have made more money in Europe?"

    "And I don’t buy the argument that John’s career is winding down. So what? Floyd Mayweather, Bernard Hopkins, Vitali Klitschko, Carl Froch, and Juan Manuel Marquez are winding their careers down as well but I doubt we would overlook them if a RING belt where to be fought in their divisions"

    So what do you think about this? Do you think the RING belt should be up for grabs in Salido-Garcia or remain vacant?
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Getting robbed is not an excuse for refusing to negotiate fights outside of a regionally favorable venue. He can't just sit on the title.
     
  3. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    While on the topic, why are they sticking with Igarashi as the champion at 11 when it was Viloria who did the hardest work at the division for the previous year.
     
  4. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't like the Ring's new policy. They shouldn't just bypass John.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    What does it matter. It's no better than alpha titles atm.

    I do think salido is the best featherweight in the world though so I'm not particularly adverse to having him as champ.

    All their policy does now is basically say that all their number 1 rated fighters will be a champ provided they face a top 5 opponent.

    As long as you no longer view it as the bible of boxing it's not that big a deal.
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In Igarashi's case, there's been unbroken lineage at flyweight since the 70's, ever since Canto defeated Oguma for the vacant championship.
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    I thnk it's good. It's not like there's much of a chance they can get a fight with John anytime soon. :good

    One Ring Belt To Rule Them All! :ibutt
     
  8. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was Gamboa really the one who didnt want the fight

    I mean I believe the 1 and 3 can fight for the Vacant RING title but i dont think the 2 and 3 can

    Now if John's lack of top opposition meant he fell from 1 then I guess its fair

    Do you think John should be lower than 1 is the question
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Right, I think at this point, if you're sitting on the #1 title and the #2, 3, and 4 are all fighting better opponents than you and facing off against each other over time, it's pretty irrelevant. It's not unfair the title be given to Gamboa or Salido.
     
  10. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    I dont like the idea of a Ring Title they never enforce Mandatory s, if you have lets say the WBC and the Ring title, and decided not to face your Mandatory and dumped the title, you can keep the Ring title and cherry pick your fights and still be called the Champ.
    What kind of sense does that make? I also think Ring has raised a few red flags in Naming Robert Guerrero fighter of the year over Nonito Donaire or even Juan Marquez, what exactly makes Robert fighter of the year? a win over Berto who had been out for a while after having tested positive for steroids coming off a loss at the hands of Ortiz?
    Aydin is that a win that makes him worthy of Fighter of the year? No and you know exactly how he got that and why, he got that mention because his promoter owns Ring, and because his promoter has set him up to face Floyd Mayweather this will be an argument for Floyd, well he is facing the 2012 fighter of the year blah blah fuggidy blah...

    as someone told me if Ring is the Bible of Boxing, its about time we have a New Testament
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also Broner being bumped up to #5 p4p after beating Demarco....

    Did ODLH fire a bunch of staffers and replace them?
     
  12. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Broner is above a Heavyweight champion who has been on a run for what six years now?:nut
     
  13. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
  14. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    :shock: Ooooooh!


    (But for the record the ring actually named Donaire.)
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    It don't matter. The wbo will also class the winner of this fight as their champion, noone is having a paddy over that.