Salvador Sanchez KO2 Harry Greb

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  1. Manassa

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    What would you think of this assertion? Agree, disagree?

    And yes, it's the Salvador Sanchez and the Harry Greb.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Of course we're going to have a bunch of guys come in an assert the greatness of a primitive fighter like Harry Greb, whom in Sanchez's time wouldn't even be anything more than a tomato can at MW.

    But let me ask you this people. Does a MW tomato can, someone with probably a 5-30 type record defeat a masterful FW type fighter?

    Not me.

    Sanchez likely beats him to a bloody pulp and they stop it somewhere around the 7th.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I think it is a ridiculous assertion.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Greb would beat Sanchez - saying Sanchez KO2 Greb is crazy

    And also, Greb is perhaps the greatest fighter who ever lived. He defeated so many hall of famers and fighters who we do have footage of which leads me to believe that Greb was damn impressive and tough as nails.
     
  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    A featherweight beating a middleweight who in turn beats heavyweights.
    I dont think so.
    Sanchez was great but because he died young and tragic he is now transformed into a unbeatable mythical figure.
    Sanchez would have never got past Arguello let alon Greb.
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    A silly question deserves a silly answer,Sanchez kos Greb just like he didnt do Cowdell,who lost a split decision to him,Sanchez stopped a green Nelson in the ladt round after having all sorts of probelms with him,Gomez was coming up in weight,Lopez a dynamite hitter was easy to hit himself,Ford and laporte were novices.Sanchez gets better every time he,s mentioned here,give it another year and he will be ranked above Willie Pep,Its entirely possible Sanchez would have become as great as some on here all ready rate him,its also very possible Nelson might have beat him had he been more seasoned ,he nearly decapitated Cowdell with one uppercut rd 1,Sanchez imo is alittle like Marilyn Monroe and James Dean ,a tragically untimely death meant that we never saw their decline so the legend stays intact,Sanchez was very good ,great if you like ,but maybe not as great as he is now perceived.You dont really want a prediction do you?No I thought not,young men should get out more,is it flooded where you are?
     
  7. Manassa

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    It is not a silly question. The assertion was a real one, not my own, but real nonetheless and some people do think this way.
     
  8. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, I'm fully realistic to the fact of the abilities of an old time fossil like Harry Greb. How many times do I have to compare to you what would a wrestler from the 20's due to a champion Greco-Roman today?

    Just because you are totally blinded by the legend, watching with tinted glasses in an unobjective form while eating up everything fans of that era say does not mean that I am off balance.

    It's very well likely that with a year of boxing training, YOU could beat the **** out of Harry Greb, much less an ATG from a modern era like Salvador Sanchez. Then you will get everyone here whom actually believes differently, that the fighters from that era were just under a ruleset difference, but had workable skills for the new rulesets, that's the insanity, the ignorance and the ridiculousness.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch

    Manassa even agree's with me that boxing started to truly evolve in the 40's, then 60's hit a nice hit and then the 80's was the peak of the skill levels, with the 90's being great and the 00's sliding off from the 80's and 90's.

    I debate this with Manassa all the time, you need him to set me straight?:yep

    Here, look at your guy playing patty cake with his friend, with horrible footwork, positioning, punching technique, sloppy lunges, no defence and being open to every shot imaginable from a modern fighter, even when this is JUST a sparring demonstration. Yet you throw a modern guy in with his ruleset while he pulls that **** that he's doing in the video below and the modern guy doesn't win???

    Modern guy KTFO 1 Greb, everytime.

    Amatuers now a days look better than this, find anybody on you tube just having some light hearted sparring. Take the tint off your glasses and open your eyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMA6Pd6tT3Q
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Look at Grebs record and who he beat. Nuff said.
     
  11. Manassa

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    Not entirely. Gloved boxing started to evolve from the very first day it was invented; the peak came in the '40s and lasted until the '80s, then it hit a gradual, downward slope.
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yes, Tunney and Dempsey are well primitive. Floyd getting smacked around in sparring? Still showcases modern skill sets over that mess that Greb showed.

    Even if Greb was messing around for fun, he showed nothing even resembling the best of boxing technique, it looks like two guys ***** slapping each other in the backyard while trying to attempt to emulate boxing, and if you didn't know that was "Harry Greb, the greatest", you'd be saying the same.

    This is all just hysterical to me.... you wonder why the planet is ruled by imbeciles as well, if simple **** like this is not even noticed right away.:nut
     
  13. Manassa

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    Amsterdam and myself are always chit-chatting about this sort of thing on MSN.
     
  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Then he doesnt understand boxing.:bart
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    So how exactly do you see Salvador Sanchez faring against Gene Tunney?