Sam"Boston Bone Crusher" Langford vs John "Boston Strong Boy"L Sullivan

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Aug 9, 2020.


Who wins

  1. Langford Decision

    16.7%
  2. Langford Knockout

    41.7%
  3. Sullivan by Decision

    8.3%
  4. Sullivan Knockout

    33.3%
  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    BUMP.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Langford had plenty of power. He Ko'd Sam Mcvea, Joe Jeannette, Harry Wills, and George Godfrey for example, all hall of fame heavyweights. On film Ko's Fireman Flynn cold. Imo he could have beaten Johnson, who pulled out of a signed contract to fight him in 1909, and would have very likely would have beaten Johnson from 1912 -1915.

    Sam developed into his power as he aged and career progressed. He looks a bit like James Toney on offense, and has the ability to fight inside or out. Every Jack Dempsey turned him down when Langford was past it.

    So Langford Ko'd a much better class than Sullivan did, and was very hard to stop in his heavyweight prime.
     
  3. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    I said I read many other books like those Imentioned!
    Dew about Greb and one about Langford!
    Btw I read Greb last book before 2 month where is show pictures of his family, mother and father,where he was born amd his early childhood!
    I read Langford book before 1 year and I couldn't remmember everything!
     
  4. SerbianLoudmouth

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    Yes they were all hall of famers but not top Heavies back then!
    He Koed Wills once and beat him by PTS second time but Wills beat him 5 times!
    If Flynn could...that is situation what could be if would be...situation but it didn't happened!
    The top class HEavies he faced were Wills,Johnson and Ketchel and he failed to KO any of them back then!
    Dempsey never ducked anyone but had respect for langford!
    When Langford made comeback they first wanted Dempseybut they said to him to pick someone easier because Dempsey was too dangerous!
    All of Langford kos came late while Dempsey noto nly better KO ratio but had more first rounds KOs!
    Langford never knocked someone Sharkey,Willard and Carpentier level and he struggled with guys their level!
     
  5. Chuck1052

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    Harry Greb was NOT Pittsburgh's first sports superstar. Honus Wagner, one of the greatest baseball players ever and a shortstop for the Pittsburgh Pirates, was active well before Greb came onto the scene.

    - Chuck Johnston
     
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  6. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    It said that he was first Pitsburg boxing superstar not just Pitsburg first superstar!
     
  7. mcvey

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    Nope I produced your statement you said;
    " I read many books about Greb and Langford"
    Now you've altered that to read"many other books like those I mentioned".
    The only interpretation one can draw from this is that you HAVENT read many books on either Greb or Langford.
    And we know this is so because their arent that many out there!
    Wills, McVey,Jeannette, were all top class heavies when Langford beat them
     
  8. 70sFan865

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    You're wrong - Wills, Jeannette and McVea all were top HWs back then. Not to mention contenders like Gunboat Smith, George Godfrey, Jim Flynn, Jeff Clark, Jack O'Brien, Bill Lang, Klondike Haynes and others.
    He knocked out Wills and Ketchel was never a top HW. He got a title shot without any resume at HW, he was nothing in terms of HW fights.
    Carpentier or Willard? You are delusional...
     
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