Sam Langford question

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  1. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Active Member Full Member

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    Well, Langford also had better footwork than Liston so it doesn't tell much in this comparison. Langford could cut off the ring like a master.

    BTW, you didn't respond to anything about Langford jabs, which are visible on footage. You'd know that but you didn't watch his fights in reality.
     
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    RUBBISH! Papp isn't even a top twenty middleweight!
     
  3. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    No that's not true; the gloves Schmeling, Baer and Louis have used were much bigger than the current; I have watched a lot of filmed fights from that time and these were always larger, except maybe the fight between Carnera against the kangaroo (were appear these small, like today).
    They had more surface for their punches, even till the ninteen-fifties and arguable later (possible until 1980, but after 1960 were they already smaller than before).

    Have you ever watched I fight which occur more than 60 years ago?
     
  4. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    It is almost the same or very close in footwork, but Liston had the better distance-feeling and timing, just as punch-techique so far.

    I wrote you which number I count of it and challenged you, then you answered you will do it later (I shall wait), but nothing came and you avoided the task (or "forgot" about it), so it was you who chickend out of the subject and failed this challenge.
     
  5. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    He is, as first three times Olympic gold medalist (and that in row), otherwise he would be the greatest light-middleweight ever.

    You now remember who klompton is and what he taught you about Mildenberger vs. Folley (when you became very small and appologized)?:thinking:
     
  6. 70sFan865

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    I said that I counted around 10 jabs from Langford against Lang in less than three rounds available. The post is there, so please don't tell me that I didn't do it when I did. There are even more jabs in Jeanette fight, but this one was the shortest and that's why I decided to use it.
     
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    Much bigger, right?
     
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    You are a cretin , everybody is laughing at you don't you get that?
     
  9. timmers612

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    I think your guessing here, what fighters are you saying had to go without needed food and training as often as reports said Sam did? As for his eyesight a number of fighters lost or had eye injuries, Frazier, Greb, Sam and many others, some from punches some from thumbs as was the case with Harry. Its guessing how his eyesight deteriorated, I was butted early in my career and it caused permanent nerve damage, we have no way of knowing about Sam's and defense may have had no bearing on it.
     
  10. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    It was clearly about the fight which was uploaded here (so you didn't and avoid it still) in this thread first and even 10 are not so many.
    But I haven't seen any number of you before here.
     
  11. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    Well the last appears smaller, but in the second is the perspective very bad and suitable for your agenda, therefore you choose it. In other fights of Baer and Schmeling among others look the gloves much bigger.
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    I used random photos from given eras. Completely random, I don't have any agenda. Ask boxing equipment history experts, gloves weren't bigger in 1930s than today.
     
  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    Well I know what is one main reason why you create so many profiles and use these here; because most users have your previous profiles on their ignoring lists, but you want to continue to annoy and offend them, as you mostly do.

    It is more than irony and humilating of yourself when you name me so, as your appear like the master and ruler of all cretin and make a fool of yourself, sub-human creature.
     
  14. Ra's Al-Ghul

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    Many if not most had it in the past, although they might be not all that successful. But for instance Billy Mieske, who went half dead into the ring, just days to live, only to make his children a nice Christmas holyday.

    I didn't know that Sam had a eye injury, I only was aware that his jaw was broken by Maskajew very early in their fight and that he was alcoholian, which damaged his liver to this permanent status.
     
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    Sam Langford using the jab consistently. What is your argument now?

    Langford parried tons of Jeanette jabs in their filmed fight, he also used good head movement to go under the jab and counter. Not to mention that he blocked a lot of Joe's punches with his right hand that was in high position and he used crossarm defense to prevent counters. Langford was very rarely hit by Jeanette in this fight because Langford used his hands well to protect himself and he had good, subtle head movement. Not to mention his footwork - he didn't give Jeanette many chances to run away, he was great at cutting off the ring.

    What are your arguments now?