Sam Langford vs 1987 Evander Holyfield

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Who wins and how

  1. Langford KO

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. Langford TKO

    2 vote(s)
    15.4%

  3. Langford UD

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%

  4. Langford SD

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  5. Draw

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  6. Holyfield KO

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%

  7. Holyfield TKO

    5 vote(s)
    38.5%

  8. Holyfield UD

    3 vote(s)
    23.1%

  9. Holyfield SD

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
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  1. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that Evander was likely a big time steroid user when he bulked up to Heavyweight. But, he was still an awfully tough, fit, and skilled mother ****er at Cruiserweight.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    That's was what I was thinking
     
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  3. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

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    Langford and wills both claimed to have fought each other 22 times but boxing historians have only found proof of 18 meetings

    I believe they fought 22 times

    I also believe there are many other bouts that do not appear on Langford’s record
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Interesting hearing all these comments about Holyfield's weight ,some saying the added poundage helped him ,some saying the opposite. DonTurner, whom a couple on here think is a great trainer, stated Holyfield's added weight was a detriment and a disadvantage to him.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Didn't he need it to compete in the modern HW division? In years past, Holyfield at 187-190 lbs would have been a bonafide heavyweight, but could he have survived the likes of Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, old Foreman etc weighing 187-190 lbs?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Apr 2, 2020
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  6. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    What did he say exactly? The extra muscle will have helped him not get ragdolled, pushed back, pushed off balance etc and it will put more weight behind your punches. But you'll be less mobile
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You never bet on the old time fighter.
     
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    To be fair, Charles, Moore and Walcott were all technically superior to Marciano.
     
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  9. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes but Marciano had better stamina than those guys. Holyfield probably had better stamina than Marciano during this period of his career
     
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  10. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whaaat?
     
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  11. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Go and watch his cruserweight fights, his stamina and workrate were immense. His style is also more physically demanding than Marciano's because of his high guard and fleet footed footwork
     
    CharlesBurley, Apr 5, 2020
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  12. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Evander had great stamina,he was a great athlete. But he did not have more stamina than Marciano. I doubt that any boxer had more stamina than Marciano
     
    Charlietf, Apr 5, 2020
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