Sam langford vs joe Louis

Twice ,plus they drew7 times ,and McVey never scaled 220lbs.
For a man who delights in telling all us ,"old fogey's" ," we don't know anything about boxing".


You are remarkably ignorant on the subject of your hero, and his opponents.

 

You asked a question I answered it correctly.:huh

Do you have any inkling how debates actually work?atsch

 

You asked if McVey ever beat Langford, I told you he did twice, and he drew with him 7 times.That would indicate a degree of parity at heavyweight where all their fights were fought.

 

My PM box is full,I'll empty some of it.

 

There was some who saw Langford that felt he'd Ko Joe Louis.

Langford in his prime years had everything but height and a good defense. He could punch hard with both hands. He could fight 20+ rounds. Very skilled as an in-fighter or out fighter. Good hand speed. Nearly impossible to stop. He owns KO's over McVey, Jeannette and Jim Battling Johnson, who were very hard men to stop.

Louis had issues with good left hook fighters and good right-hand fighters and did not have a good defense either. By his own admission, he didn't like to be smothered, which would be an issue vs. an attack dog type like Langford. While his ability to recover from medium level puncher was good, it was not so good the better hitters.

This fight would be a war! Most could agree with that part.

In a war between big punchers, I tend to favor the most durable fighter. In this case, I actually think Langford has a style advantage. While Louis had the better jab ( as many mentioned here ) , it was not his style to stick and move, and he lacked the footwork to do it.

 

I think you can get a pretty good idea of it from film. Why do you think you can not?

 

I think Louis is greater overall, but boxing is about individual match ups and styles tend to dictate how and where the action happens and steer outcomes when the level of the opponents are near even.

Louis certainly could win, but I think he needs a stoppage here. Langford is about as battle tested as they come. For certain, Louis can not afford a Galento or Godoy ( two compact like fighters, neither as skilled or fast as Langford was ) like performance and hope for his hand to be raised at the end of the match.

Louis struggled vs. compact forward mover types. While he was past his best for sure vs. Marciano, you could agree that Marciano and Langford were somewhat similar in attack, with Langford being more accurate with longer arms and quicker hands and Marciano possibly having more power.

 

This is a possible scenario.
I wouldn't necessarily say Marciano had more power than Langford.