Sam Langford vs These fighters

A fed, rested and in shape Langford would ko Floyd and mangle Jerry down the pike. His style and skills were years before his time and there have been few equal to knowing how to set and deliver a ko blow. I don't see him lacking anything against any close to weight foe.

 

He would probably have brutalized both of them.

 

Patterson is so underrated its ridiculous. I wouldnt make Langford in his best shape any more than 50/50 against Patterson. Had Patterson chosen to stay at 175 and not chase money and history at HW we would likely be regarding him as one of the greatest if not THE greatest 175 pounders in history. The guy was fast and could hit like a ton of brick. He was a good boxer and a good a infighter and despite his reputation for having a weak chin (most of the KDs he suffered were more about balance, due to his leaping in, than him actually being hurt) he was only legimately stopped three times (the other two stoppages being on cuts and due to his hurt back) despite facing Ali, Liston, Chuvalo, Quarry, Bonavena, Machen, Johannson, Moore, and Cooper. Some of those guys were seriously hard punching fighters and almost all of them were naturally bigger than Floyd.

With Quarry it depends on which version shows up. Quarry could be so erratic but he was damn good against guys who came to him. Langford would come to him and would have to given the difference in size. Quarry, at his best, was a very savvy operator who was deadly fighting off the ropes. He was also extremely tough, much bigger than Langford, had a very good punch, and knew how to deal with aggressive fighters. I dont know. Id have to think both of these fights would be very good fights and I would have a hard time picking a winner. Langford, like Patterson and Quarry wasnt unbeatable and he lost to guys who probably werent any better and possibly a lot worse than Quarry and Patterson so Id have a hard time just blindly saying he beats them out of hand.

 

I agree that Patterson is very underrated, but lets be realistic, Langford is going to annihilate him.

As for Quarry, it would be a public execution.

 

Where's the footage of Langford to back any of this up?

If I had to guess I'd say he loses to both. But in reality I don't know.

 

from what I have seen of Langford he was technically highly proficient and could hit like a hammer. I feel he walks through Quarry. Quarry always lost his bouts against his best competition and Sam was as good as they get. Langford TKO round 5.

Patterson was a highly skilled fighter and I have a tough time visualizing this bout however....,,Langford was by all accounts a devastating puncher along with his great technical capabilities. Those that fought him as well as historians from that time rate him so very highly. One thing about Patterson was he tended to loop his shots even his jab never appeared straight from the shoulder as it should be thrown. I think a smart boxer like Sam picks up on this and lands counters that end the fight. Langford TKO 10.

 

Not so sure .. no doubt lightning fast and a good puncher but sure had a lot of medicore moments in his title reign such as getting dropped by Rachedmacher , ect .. I actually think Floyd was poorly trained by D'Amato and that peek-a-boo style was not best use of his skills given his shaky chin .. Floyd liked to trade and I see Sam putting him to sleep .. I also see Langford crushing Quarry .. no one who got hit like that was beating Langford.

 

Patterson was extremely gifted with hand speed and power but had that weakness to getting dropped and hurt if you could get him first of break through his offense ...I think Sam may be able to break through

As far as Quarry he had a solid set of whiskers and good power and not a bad boxer when he seasoned up. This would be a tough battle for both men, Quarry didn't like speed but Sam was decent not a speedster so Sam could take a decision or lose a decision, could a KO happen, yes but who gets it. I am THinking Sam wins a nod

 

There are three Langford fights worth about an hour of footage. Heck there's enough for a highlight

 

Patterson and Quarry were both bigger and at least good if not much better than Gunboat Smith who beat Langford in or near his prime. They were also as good or better than Sam McVey who Langford had problems with and Fred Fulton. Like I said, Langford had scary moments against or lost to guys who werent as good as Patterson or Quarry so its not out of the realm of possibility that these guys could beat him.

 

Langford came in fat and unprepared for Smith and then crushed him in a rematch , a pattern he started to develop at that point in his career .. Fulton is completely irrelevant as he presented a totally different stylistic matchup than the much smaller Quarry and Patterson .. you know this ... :good

 

0-2, 1-1 or 2-0 is possible.

I think Langford wins both via KO. Sam had the best durability and power, along with good offensive skills.

Quarry boxed when he should have brawled and brawled when he should have boxed. He has some issues with cuts, and focus in the ring. A good counter puncher, Quarry had some power, but it was often not enough vs the best.

Patterson has superior skills, and speed but his style plays right in the hands of a more durable hitter.

Stopping Langford in his prime was a rare.

Yes Quarry and Patterson were a taller, but Langford had the longer arms and was stronger. Who is bigger in a tale of the tap sense can vary depending on the measurement.

I would pick Langford in both fights, but its hardly a sure thing.

 

This is a very good point. In hindsight Patterson was better suited to be a box / move and counter punch type of guy that only became a stand and trade type when he had his man hurt.

D'Amato liked to teach a forward moving aggressive style, which requires a strong chin.

A trainer’s job is to know his fighter’s tendencies, strength and weakness and build a game around it.

You could say Langford physical gifts would have been perfect for Cus teachings.

 

When did Sam ever face a fighter who threw blazing fast powerful combinations like Patterson? That fighter didn't exist in sams era of one punch at a time


Patterson has a great shot to beat Sam