Sam Langford

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Check_Hook, Jan 3, 2011.


  1. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    As McGrain says, they only have 10 fights according to Boxrec and unfortunately most fights are not reported by Boxrec. Bob Fitzsimmons has only 99 fights recorded on Boxrec when it's believed he may have had around/over 300. If a top 10 ATG only has a third of his record complete and 200 fights missing, you can imagine how many other fights Boxrec has missed.

    Well clearly you feel you are one to judge because despite all the facts and evidence being thrown about in this thread you are still arguing and using Boxrec to try and justify your arguement. If you accept that your knowledge of the old school fighters isn't great, then you should look to learn from some of the information being branded about rather than trying to argue with it from a position with limited-knowledge [by your own admittance].
     
  2. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Barbados Joe Walcott top 25 atg

    Wills top 10 HW

    Langford greatest of all time....................serious:?

    I seriously need to get stuck into the classics if this is the case
     
  3. McGrain

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    Wills as a top 10 at HW is arguably. I have him at 10, and that's the highest i've ever seen him. Anything below 14 needs explaining.

    Langford as greatest of all time is also debatable, but I'd consider him a lock for the top 6.

    Walcott as a lock for the 25 is also arguable, but for, say, the 40, it's really not.
     
  4. Swarmer

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    I think Wills top 10 HW is debateable, but he had good competition.

    I think BJW is a top 25 atg. he could be outboxed, but as a welterweight the guy gave up a lot of weight, he was able to take on LHWs/180lbers and hold his own... He is the hardest punching WW ever, and that includes hearns and robinson.
     
  5. TommyV

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    I have Barbados Joe at #21, lock for top 30 IMO, Wills at #11 and lock for top 15, and Langford #4 myself and a lock for top 4. But they are all very valid arguments. It's well worth studying more old-school fighters, Burley is another ATG that often goes under the radar and is a top 20 ATG [as McGrain will tell you :D].
     
  6. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair enough :good
     
  7. McGrain

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    Have fun looking into these fighters, and come see us on Classic if you have any questions you need answering.
     
  8. :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Not arguing his rank as an ATG.

    #21.

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  9. TommyV

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    So where should he be? Or more to the point, list 30 ATG's that deserve to be ranked ahead of him.
     
  10. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good... While trying to portray himself as impartial, he has an obvious stance on Langford being overrated. If I were as naive as you say you are about Langfords career, all of these facts being thrown my way would sway my thoughts to "hey this guy really was damn good". I mean what type of responses are you looking to get?
     
  11. Possibly top 50, ranking him as #21 is uproariously hilarious.

    :lol::lol::lol:

    You're a joke.
     
  12. TommyV

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    Possibly top 50? :lol: Name 30-40 fighters who deserve to be ranked ahead of him then. I'm waiting.
     
  13. Robinson, Armstrong, Pep, Greb, Charles, Ali, Louis, Jack Johnson, Pacquiao, Mayweather, Roy Jones, Mike Tyson, Benny Leonard, Ray Leonard, Moore, Gans, Duran, Monzon, Langford, Canzoneri, Ortiz, Hagler, McGovern, Walker, Saddler, McLarnin, Napoles, Daniel Judah, Hopkins, Zab Judah, Danny Jacobs.

    Consider yourself schooled.

    :hi:
     
  14. Valane

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    Nice trolling. Not...
     
  15. TommyV

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    +1.