Sam McVea vs Jim Johnson ?

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  1. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There was some debate on youtube as to whether this was McVea vs Jim Johnson or Sam Langford. I don't think it's Langford but it's worth a second opinion.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1Du1z8R_f8&feature=related[/ame]
     
  2. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Its jim johnson. I have newspaper photos from this bout.
     
  3. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sam looks one to two inches taller than Johnson to me.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    I have a few full rounds of the action on film. It is Sam McVey vs. Jim Johnson. The fight was ruled a draw. While it’s dangerous to say who is better man on 12-15 minutes or so of footage, I was not terribly impressed with Sam McVey.

    Sam had a foundation like a building, and an intimidating build. I was surprised to learn how easily he could be discouraged. Once Jim Johnson hit him with a solid blow, Sam McVey went into retreat mode! McVey’s footwork was rather poor, though I do think he has some athleticism to him. His pattern of attack was to inch up in a straight line approach and club away with the left hook. I did not see a jab or a cross. Essentially McVey looks like a one trick pony. I must say Jim Johnson to me looked a bit better, and he was nothing special either. The thing on Jim Johnson was he was a solid man who took a good punch, and not one to be intimidated.

    I heard a rumor that the infamous Jim Battling Johnson vs. Jack Johnson fight has survived the passage into the 21st century. News reads suggest a questionable decision of the first all black lineal heavyweight title match. I believe Jim “ Battling “ Johnson was robbed, and might have been given draws because he was the not so famous” opponent “. One day, perhaps we can see him in a full fight and judge for ourselves.
     
  5. choklab

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    battling jim beat a peak harry wills by KO but some say it was beacuse will broke his wrist.
     
  6. eslubin

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    That may not be Jim Johnson but I'm confident in saying that is not Langford:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJOy_taioQ[/ame]

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  7. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i agree. mcvey was more of a brute from what we see here. it's not hard to see why the smaller langford had the best of their fights.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Cyber boxing zone lists Battling Jim Johnson as 6'3 and 220 pounds.
    Boxrec has him at 5'11.

    This cigarette card has him listed as 6'1.

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    In the footage he appears to be about 5'9
     
  9. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree 100%
     
  10. mcvey

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  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Johnson was not willing to give Battling Jim a re-match. Langford, Jeanette, and others were. As to the broken arm ( it was a wrist bone ), most felt it happened late in the fight. Did you not read the report I posted? Take off your dog **** brown glasses ever now and then. Jack gave Jim a title shot because he was a joruneyman, and thanks to his influence of the situation was lucky to retain his title in a lineal sense due to a dubious draw.
     
  12. mcvey

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    BATTLING JIM JORUNEYMAN

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  13. mcvey

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    More Pics of Mendoza's BATTLING JIM JORUNEYMAN
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  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Battling Jim Joruneyman, is he the guy who ducked ,Louise Fripo?:huh
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Your attempt to use humor when your out gunned is pitiful.