Sam Peter is a cheater: Proof inside

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  1. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    BS, clenching is simply another word for holding. . . ITS ILLEGAL.
    The sooner boxing enforces the rule and puts a stop to this boring crap the better.
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    Brother Suge, it's quite common for there to be a lot of foot stepping on when an orthodox fighter fights a southpaw. This fight was no different. Also, due to Ibragimov's leaning back and waiting to counter approach, Wlad was the aggressor and therefore his foot would be moving forward while Iggy's was planted. That may account for why Iggy didn't step on Klit's foot nearly as much as Klit stepped on his.

    I'm here to help...............:D
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Clinching IS legal, check with your local library and get yourself a book on boxing 101.
     
  4. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Semantics :roll:, its another word for holding . .. its illegal.
     
  5. Ramshall1

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    WBA Referee Manual
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    HOLDING

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    Pay attention. Some boxers work on using this illegal tactic. Holding is one of the most obvious poor tactics in the sport of boxing. It not only infuriates the fans, but it negates action during the bout. Therefore, it should be addressed accordingly.
    This foul occurs in various forms. A boxer may hold his opponent's arms, hands, body, or shoulders with either of his hands or arms.
    At times, the holding boxer is not to blame as when one boxer pushes or leans on his opponent and the latter loses balance and holds on.
    It should be noted that when one of the boxers pushes his arms underneath the arms of his opponent, does not withdraw them, and his opponent then delivers blows, the Referee should not interrupt this counter attack, but rather admonish the boxer pushing his arms underneath.
    Suitable hand signal: Mimic the type of holding, clenching or wrestling.
     
  6. Suge Green

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    Thanks...:roll:

    This was not a case of orthodox vs. unorthodox...it's a case of KLIT doing anything with an attitude that says, "it's only cheating if the ref has a problem with it..."

    Sure there are times when this happens when a conventional fighter faces a southpaw, but it's easy to differentiate between a fighter doing it on purpose like I'm saying, and accidentally as you suggest...

    A fighter who isn't using it as part of there strategy won't throw blows when standing on the fighters foot, he will take his foot off of his opponent then strike.

    There were times in the fight where, when KLIT stepped on IGGy's foot, he seemed to not like his footing...causing him to adjust by stepping more squarely on IGGy's foot (of course followed by strikes).

    Skull, it was so blatant that you are the first person to try suggesting it wasn't intentional...:smoke
     
  7. Suge Green

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    You are completely correct, but don't expect to be rewarded with a logical response from the KLIT-ites...to view this sensibly would require admitting that KLIT's whole strategy is illegal and is in fact, not even boxing.
     
  8. Brand

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    BS, Hatton holds just as much if not more. watch Hatton vs Juan Urango or Tszyu
     
  9. Ramshall1

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    I wouldnt go that far but I see your point, although you cant put ALL the blame on Wlad . . . if the ref doesnt enforce the rule, its his fault too. . . if the boxing commissions dont make the refs enforce the rules its their fault too. . . .its kinda like when Kobe Bryant travels and doesnt get called for it. They let him get away with it so of course he's gonna do it.

    But yes it is clearly illegal and any argument otherwise is pretty absurd.
     
  10. Ramshall1

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    I was exagerating to make a point, but Wlad does hold more than Hatton on the whole.
     
  11. Suge Green

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    I do go that far because an integral part of his current style is not even permitted. The fact that the refs don't care doesn't help his case in my eyes...does he want to be the people's champ or the ref's champ...???

    If KOBE travels, it's traveling...regardless what the officials say, the athlete and the fans know.
     
  12. Brand

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    :good Hatton holds more IMHO. only fight i thought wlad held excessively was against Peter. i agree he should have been warned or penalized
     
  13. Ramshall1

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    right, its his fault. . . but its also the refs and the comisses fault for allowing it. These rules need to be enforced across the board.
     
  14. Bubba

    Bubba Boxing’s not as popular as it used to be, right? Full Member

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    Peter is a big cheater!

    He hits behind the head all the time.

    And he also punches low!!