Sam Peter is the most over-f**kin-rated heavyweight in the world right now.

So, by your logic, if a fighter doesn't turn his back to Peter, The Nigerian Nightmare doesn't stand a chance. His strategy relies of fighters turning their backs to him, right?

 

No Im not saying that at all, Peter had Wlad hurt and for whatever reason turned his back to Peter I guess to avoid punches and got knocked down. I honestly see nothing wrong with what Peter did, if you watch Hagler/Hearns or Frazier/Foreman the same thing happend if fighter turns his back on you its fair game.

 

Have been off line for a week - catching up. Many upcoming fights are getting attention, but Taylor-Pavlik & Mayweather-Hatton are getting tons of posts. Anyway, to the topic at hand. I've not been a Peter nuthugger like box03 or swedeone, nor a hater like many. Peter is a big HW with a big punch and a durable chin. He's also a crude mofo, who does deliver some questionable punches. His 2 bouts vs a fading, almost no business fighting at HW JT were a big disapointment to me. He should have beaten JT more easily in their 2nd fight - even by stoppage. I favored him over Oleg, and think he'll most likely beat McCline. But if JM has more than a bit left, he could give Peter a tough fight. Overall Peter is a bit overrated. He has yet to defeat a top 10 HW. He probably will sooner or later, but his fanboys will not see him be the dominant HW they want.

Re the Wlad fight. Let's say the 3 KDs were legit - your boy still easily lost by UD. Which means he was thouroughly ouboxed - and he was - most of the fight. I don't know what some Peter loons were saying about Wlad looking worse for wear after their fight. Take into consideration (this is more simple than common sense) that a dark skinned person will not show bruising as readily as a lighter skinned person. But it doesn't mean it's not there ! Peter's face was quite puffed & marked up after eating shots from Wlad over 12 rounds. :!: As for Wlad's excessive clinching - give it up. This has become beyond lame. :tired Watch Ali's fights or many other great HW boxers. They clinched just as much as Wlad (or more) and against much smaller fighters than the 250+ lb Peter. If Wlad isn't all that good, then Peter's competitive loss didn't mean anything either. Which means Peter really has yet to do anything but stop the J Williams & T Sykes of the division. Big f'in deal. Some idiot above said that Wlad hasn't done much since beating Sam. :nut Then Peter has done even less since his loss to Wlad. :yep The haters want to have it both ways - but you can't. Which is it? If Wlad isn't all that good, then Peter is a glorified bum.

I happen to think both are better. He may not be the image of the top HW to some, but Wlad is the top HW right now. Peter deserves being in the top 10. Let's see what he does in his next 2-3 fights.

 

Nah nah nah buddy . . . the fact of the matter is . . . he's the most screwed up heavy weight fighter today. WBC is very much succesful in delaying his career advancement by denying him that goddam title shot over and over again. :yep

I'm not saying he is gonna be succesful . . . but we ought to know by now where he should really be if not for ****i'n WBC.

 

Sam Peter isn't overrated according to Ring Magazine. Ranked #2 behind the only man to beat him, Wladimir Klitschko.

 

I think the equalizer will be the proof in pure daylight, When we see Samuel start to demolish established champs.. The return against Wlad is a natural.. I can't wait for the fight , it will be like the present day Tyson v Spinks when it actually occurs.. Sammy will not fail over time.. He is starting to show signs of becoming a class fighter.. He was three years ago acting very bull headded and stubborn with his raw style and non complience to a strict diet, but he has buckeled down and is realising his potential..

 

Depends on your definition of "excessive"

Wlad broke the clinch whenever the ref told them to.

 

That's bull****. NBT posted some great shots from the fight & Sam is leaning on Wlad's neck pushing him down & when Wlad tries to get back up Sam fires a shot aimed directly at the back of Klitschko's head.

You might want to take a look at those pictures before you make a bigger idiot of yourself. :good It's in another thread , started by you, asking whether or not Sam is a dirty fighter...................

 

Once again, re-watch the fight. Or you can just check out the pictures NBT posted in your other thread.

 

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My thoughts exactly. Fair and honest opinion right here. :deal

 

.......and if the 2 never fought each other I guess they'd have Sam ranked above Klitschko for his percieved greatness :-( :huh

For instance, how is it that Peter is ranked above Chagaev, who has a win over 2 top 10's, Ruiz & the WBA champ at the time Valuev?

 

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Why, due to Sam's potential :huh
A Ruslan-Sam fight is hard to pick. I wonder if Chagaev would or should fight Peter on the inside. Maybe later in the fight, this could be effective vs Peter. Chagaev does not have the height/reach to fight Peter the way Wlad did. Would Chagaev use a similar plan to fight Peter that he used vs Valuev?

 

Well it would've been a shutout if Peter didn't punch the back of the head right?

 

............you just set yourself up for that one :nut