Sam Peter is the most over-f**kin-rated heavyweight in the world right now.

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  1. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Wladimir turned away (turned his back on Peter), but Peter blasted him in the back of the head...

    Does anybody know the rules about this?
     
  2. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, you can not avoid punches by turning your back and you are to protct yourself at all times. If Peter was doing it porposely the ref can step in and warn him but in this case he was given no choice but too hit Wlad in the back of the head, the ref knows the rules better than anyone on ESB and if it was foul the ref wouldnt of counted it as a knockout. When Foreman hit Frazier in the back of the head when he turned away it, that punch was perfectly leagal or when Hagler hit hearns when he turned his back and tried to get away.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Thanks:good

    I thought the back of the head was fair game if the opponent turned away.
     
  4. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no problem, its common sense you turn your head in a fight you deserve to be knocked out. The ref could of actually warned Wlad for turning his head in the fight but before the ref could say anything Peter had him on his back, I just wish Wlad fans would wake up and realize that you cant turn your back to avoid punches.
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Would the rabbit punches against Toney be considered illegal? It seems as though they were because Toney wasn't actually turning away fron Samuel, but rather ducking low.
     
  6. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think they could be considered illegal rabbit punches, but you must remember during that fight Toney was trying to time Peters punches alot by ducking under them when he would throw looking to make Peter miss and counter. I honestly believe Sam throws punches that he dont even no were there going sometimes and the fact that Toney is hard to hit flush might have something to do with Peters miss placed punching, if I was a ref I could see it either way.
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I agree...he loops his shots and just throws them out there really wild. You get a puncher like that, and the shots are going to hit a lot of places.
     
  8. box03

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    I know alot of the fighters Peter put to sleep were bums, but if you get a chance watch the fight between Peter/diaz or Peter/Long he dominated these guys like Tyson use to back in the day. I just see alot of promise in Peter, and he certainly has that raw rage in the ring I like.
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I don't think he will ever be looked upon as another Mike Tyson, but he has the raw physical strength, toughness, and power to build upon and if he can improve more and more, he can become a force in the division. I find it crazy for people to say he can't KO a top 20-25 HW. He has power - one could tell from just watching the punches he throws when he really throws them with force. Who knocks out James Toney? And Wladimir Klitschko isn't some easy guy to KO...he's the best fighter in the division. Peter definitely has promise...

    Yes, he's overrated by some posters on here, but I think he is underrated by many as well. The best way to assess his ability and talent, in my opinion, is to say he's a strong, powerful puncher who, despite his lack of great technical ability, can give anybody problems based on his sheer strength, power, and chin. Would he beat everybody? No, but he could beat a lot of good fighters.
     
  10. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I also feel hes no Tyson but who needs to be in this weak ass division, the wbo changes hands every couple months and anyone could beat anyone on given night besides maybe Wlad. You got to remember 2 years ago the champs were Brewster, Bryd, Ruiz, and Rahman and none of them are champs anymore. I think that says alot about how weak the division truly is, and Peter is the only heavywieght right now with a pretty good chance of beating Wlad the 2nd time around.
     
  11. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Samuel Peter will soon be regarded as the #2 heavyweight behind the man he lost to .. Wladimir.

    Even in losinghe made Wlad suck in some air over the stretch. This is a very good Wladimir who seems to have a fresh new A- game going on..

    Sam v Wlad is a natural rematch in unification.. Sultan v Holy is a pick em fight.. Sammy and Wlad are the 1 & 2.. Chagaev needs more time to settle into being a beltholder.
     
  12. BoxingGuru

    BoxingGuru Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're talking about the same bums that they threw in there with Tyson to make him look good. Peter doesn't really have that much power or even skill to land a punch without throwing looping wild crazy punches.
     
  13. Bigcat

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    So why doesn't a Rahman or Byrd or Briggs or Barrett or any other of the Heavyweights hold the number 2 spot after a couple of final Eliminators? Are they as superior or just getting overlooked.. The beating of those so called bums didn't stop Tyson becoming a great heavyweight.. He wound up demolishing a whole division of champs and ex champs on a mealticket of bums did he ?

    Samuel didn't telegraph against Toney, he didn't loop against Jeremy.. If he did Jeremy didn't seeit coming.. Get the story straight..

    I will see you when Sammy is an established champ..
     
  14. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    still trying to rationalize the ineptitude of your hero? btw-all the fighters sam peter has knocked out were bums
     
  15. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He hasn't knocked out a ranked fighter, that's for sure...

    But I think it's down right arrogant and idiotic for fans to call fighters "bums."