Sam Peter is the most over-f**kin-rated heavyweight in the world right now.

Yanqui Diaz was ranked when Sam beat him.

James Toney also was ranked when Sam beat him...TWICE!

Taurus Sykes was easy top 20.

Jeremy Williams also easy top 20.

Pudar and Shufford both would easy make a top 20.

For a young man who hadn't alot of amateur experience, Sam moved along properly. He is just now coming into his own and alot of the haters on here are going to be stewing for a long time. Have fun calling a polished boxer a crude slugger. He sure didn't look it against James Toney.

 

Well said, I think some people forget the man just turned 27 which is very young in the heavywieght division, Peter has not his prime yet and is getting better after every fight. I think we should give Peter a couple more years before we write him off, just 2 years ago he had the recognized heavywieght Wlad in a alot of trouble in the ring and I believe if he wouldve smothered his punches in that fight I feel he could of finished him.

 

Sam made alot of improvements in his fights with Toney.

For a while he was getting away with just right hand clubbing everyone. I feel that despite fate, he would have been better served running into Toney before Waldo. He simply was not well instructed on how to deal with an octopus.

He went from right hand clubbing to setting up his punches with a jab. He's had these tools for awhile now and showed them in spurts against Sykes and Diaz. But against Toney the whole package came together.

What I found most interesting though is how they picked up on Toney's defensive vunerabilities in spots. Like when he would bend they'd let him go and then place a right hand on his ear. And when he'd start into his bend they'd throw a left hook. That's brilliant stuff that not many people know about.

They have 12 rounds on tape on how to study Waldo and I believe with both Pops Anderson and Stacey McKinley in his corner he is going to become a real force.

 

Sam Peter is overrated and crude. Even his punching power, wtf did he ever KO, Jeremy Williams, the glassed chin Cuban that gets Ko''d in every fight Diaz, Julius " get KO'd by everyone " Long.

I wouldnt be surprised to see Mccline use his size, and reach advantage on the outside , avoid Peters wild shots and make a fight of it. Much more so then people expect.

Peter's supposed great improvement mostly was due to Toney being shot as ****. That should tell you something, when Toney struggled to beat Batchleder by SD and was rocked int the 9th round.

 

That's gotta be doing better than earning a draw with Ray Austin no?

When Ibragimov learns how to circle left get back to me. :hi:

 

The Toney fights were learning experiences to say least, Toney is a hard fighter for anyone in the heavywieght division to beat. Rahman, Ruiz, and Holyfield coudnt do it and they have been champions what 8 times between them all together. Peter is a developing heavywieght and he is not a finished product just yet, he has talent thats see were it goes in the next couple years.

 

How did Peter get his shot, knocking out a bunch a handpicked glass chinned fighters? Then losing to Klitschko, when all he did was land land 3 illegal punches behind the head all night , and done nothing else even remotly effective. Lose to a fat steroid using MW, was forced into a rematch then beat a fat MW for his title shot.

 

Samuel Peter was 24-0 (21) against good opposition for an up and coming fighter. Klitschko wasn't impressive in his last few outings before the Peter fight. Peter made Wladimir fight and landed some good shots - knocking him down 3 times. Peter also showed great toughness and an iron chin in this fight. However, Klitschko was the clear winner.

He didn't lose to James Toney...ever. Despite what your scorecard reads, he won the 1st fight. And unfairly, the WBC said "you have to fight him again to get a title shot." He did and he beat Toney convincingly, showing improvement in many areas.

Peter is a hand-full for any heavyweight out there.

 

First of all the one knockdown didnt come from Sam hitting Wlad in the back of the head and the other 2 were perfectly legal considering Wlad turned his back and was hit behind the head, any official boxing rule book will tell you that. How could Sams punches be Illegal he had Wlad hurt and Wlad turned his back and got hit, what do you expect Peter to do wait for the ref to warn Wlad to turn around so he could punch him?

 

BINGO! :good

Finally someone makes some sense. Jeeeeeeez.

 

One knock down didnt even happen at all, any unbiased person could see Vlad was pushed down , and a punch wasnt even landed. The other two were right, smack in the back of the head and questionable.

 

In the 5th round, the punches landed on the back of the head.

In the 10th round, the punch landed right on Wladimir's face - not on the back of the head

 

Jesus christ, that is ridicioulus. Jeremy Williams, Yanqui Diaz , Shufford, Sykes, Pudar top 20. Williams, and Diaz are Top 20, bad chins.

 

I kinda agree the one knockdown could be seen as a push down but Wlad was kinda hurt by Peters punches before that so I could see how it could be called a knockdown, the other 2 knockdowns counted for good reason a fighter should never turn his back to a fighter it shows weakness and unwillingness to want to continue the fight.

 

But he was hurt originally from a punch behind the head. I remember that, Peter clubbed Vlad in the back again illegally, hurt Vlad then knocked him down up against the ropes. One was certainly a push.