Sam Peter vs 1974 George Foreman

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Aug 19, 2024.


Who wins and how

  1. Foreman KO TKO

    95.8%
  2. Peter KO/TKO

    4.2%
  3. Foreman Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Peter Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,777
    6,106
    Aug 27, 2020
    Weird how he used to fight at Middleweight then, while being a grown ass man who had stopped growing. Maybe it's because he was a lazy fatass.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,694
    17,751
    Apr 3, 2012
    I'm going to assume you aren't familiar with Toney. He was closer to 200 pounds in high school, but drained to 160 to start his career. He was in very good shape for Jirov (entered the ring over 200) and Holyfield (weighed 217).

    That makes an in shape Toney heavier than Zaire Ali.
     
    Pat M likes this.
  3. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,777
    6,106
    Aug 27, 2020
    I'm going to assume you're one of the people who think having excess weight means you're in your ideal condition somehow. There's probably a reason he cut down so low. Maybe he knew he wasn't as naturally big as the Heavyweights.

    Just a possibility.
     
    Greg Price99 likes this.
  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,613
    3,077
    Aug 26, 2020
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    19,084
    20,580
    Jul 30, 2014
    lol Foreman should've went to close 12 round decisions against the likes of Frazier and Norton instead of the two demolition jobs he did of two of the best in the world just to fulfil your criteria. Do you hear yourself?
     
    Ney likes this.
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,694
    17,751
    Apr 3, 2012
    Are you trying to say that Peter didn't have Norton's chin?
     
  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

    19,084
    20,580
    Jul 30, 2014
    Manufacturing strawmen again?
     
    Greg Price99 likes this.
  8. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    60,745
    81,057
    Aug 21, 2012
    ^ Look, a "his power is over 9000" boxing fan!
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  9. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

    60,745
    81,057
    Aug 21, 2012
    You are absolutely right!

    195lb and 5'10 with a 50% KO rate in the 1970's equals 6'2, 240lb and a 80% KO rate in the 2000's.

    This is due to the planetary alignment of Jupiter with Mars during the 70's which automatically gives +35% to a fighters stats from that period, across the board.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    10,604
    18,193
    Jan 6, 2017
    No, apples to apples would be comparing their best wins and how they fared against similar boxers (sluggers).

    Losing a 12 round fight isn't relevant in this matchup at all. Foreman and Wladmir had zero similarities whatsoever other than hitting hard and had drastically different styles.

    So mind telling me Peter's best win?
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  11. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    10,604
    18,193
    Jan 6, 2017
    *fatter
     
    Greg Price99 likes this.
  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

    10,604
    18,193
    Jan 6, 2017
    He won't admit this because he knows that would be ridiculous. I've cornered him about this before.

    But yes, that's his stance when it comes to fighters he dislikes. They get penalized for winning by early KO for some reason.
     
    swagdelfadeel likes this.
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,694
    17,751
    Apr 3, 2012
    They arent similar in that Wlad was bigger, stronger, taller,threw harder and straighter punches, and had better stamina than Foreman.

    Show me the guys with Peter's size, power, and durability that Foreman was chopping down in the 70s.
     
    BCS8 and cross_trainer like this.
  14. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,705
    4,253
    Jun 20, 2017
    Wasn't Toney an All American high school football player? A 200 pound running back? He probably lost weight to box so that he wouldn't be giving up so much height and length to this opponents. Toney roomed with Deion Sanders at the U. of Michigan football camp so Toney was probably a big time prospect.

    https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/great-story-about-deion-sanders-u-m-football-camp

    This content is protected
     
    cross_trainer likes this.
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    26,694
    17,751
    Apr 3, 2012
    I thought he was a quarterback, but I can't remember. Shaq is also his cousin.
     
    cross_trainer likes this.