Sam Peter vs Ike Ibeabuchi (In their Primes)

Transparent...Klit fans are unreal. The only people saying that Peter would beat Ike are Klit fans...I wonder why??? Is it because wlad already beat Peter and for whatever reason they think that saying that Ike would beat Peter its like saying he would also beaqt Klit....

None Klit fans seem to think that Ike would win that fight at about a 90% clip.

Widdow Ike dismantled Byrd like no one eles has ever done. He went toe to toe with Tua and his career was really just getting started. He was a beast on the move and would have most likely become the dominate heavyweight. And you talk about his lack of speed while showing a clip of his fight with byrd who is the fastest heavyweight of the past 10 or so years.

What a joke...And totally transparent:hi:

 

Ike was a helluva fighter. Iron chin, endless stamina and a good inside game as well as outside. Don't make too much of how Byrd was winning on the cards. People who really saw that fight at the time saw Ibeabuchi wearing on Byrd throughout the fight. Ibeabuchi POUNDED Byrd's arms and wherever he could land. When Byrd finally started to wear he was resting along the ropes and Ibeabuchi made him think he was gonna hit his arms again. So when Byrd let his guard down he caught that uppercut flush in the face. Almost took his head off.

He knocked out Byrd long before Waldo could. He also went toe to toe with the guy Lewis clung to out of fear and desperation over 12 rounds. Ike was the man and would have been THE man had he not been carted off to prison. Crazy as hell but the best heavyweight out of the 2000 bunch.

 

The Eternal Myth vs Glacier Peter

One for the ages!

 

Ain't that the truth. atsch

 

This fight was a good win for Ike, but does little to tell us how he would fare against a real heavyweight.

Who ko'd byrd first means squat. Chris, like Ike, were both prospects when they fought. And if a short David Tua without a jab could land on Ike as many times as he did, What would Lennox, Holy, or either Klitschko do to him from the outside? Ike may very well have been great if he had the oppurtunity, he was a helluva prospect. But you're jumping the gun saying he would have been champ, based on who he fought and their styles. You mention Ike going toe to toe with Tua, yet Lennox "clinging out of fear and desperation". I see it differently. I see it as Lennox making it an easy fight for himself, and Ike not having to tools yet to make it an easy fight. See where Im going?

 

Ike made himself available to Tua. Tua WILL land cleanly on anyone who doesn't run away from him or tie him up. Unless that someone is as elusive as Chris Byrd.

That's what the lot of you seem to forget here. Ike could have boxed and moved with Tua but that's not what he wanted to do. He wanted to prove he was stronger and more durable than Tua. So that's the fight they fought. He fought David Tua's fight and beat him. And he knocked Byrd out long before Waldo could. I'd say that's pretty damn impressive for a "prospect"

Lewis would not have beaten Ike. No way no how. Ike was not an ancient Holyfield nor an ancient Tyson nor a one dimensional slugger like Tua. Lewis would have likely tried to molest Ike by grabbing and locking up his arms similar to what Waldo did to Sam. But in the end Ike's stamina would be the difference. He'd find a way somehow even if he had to beat on Lewis' arms all night.

 

ike never faced a skilled big man like lennox, wlad or vitali. all three would beat him handiliy imo because of their length and foot movement. Ike looks great when a guy stands right in front of him willing to trade.

I think Vitali would stop him for sure and Lennox would "tua" him or stop him late. Wlad should win a wide UD but id say crazy ike has a puncher's chance with timid wlad

as for peter-ike. this is a good style match-up for ike. Ike was technically surperior and better conditioned. he looked like he could throw straighter shots. he would land on peter. id take ike on pts or late stoppage.

 

Ike would beat Peter.

 

Yea Ike wouldn't be able to do what Byrd did, or what Brewster or Sanders did. He just wasn't capable. :nut

Lennox would try and "Tua" anyone who could deck him. Which included a vast host of 2000 opponents. Vitlay would just do that ridiculous rubber man defense mechanism and would be eating solid punches to his body all night because of it. Waldo I needn't even point out, as he would be KTFO because he can't handle pressure or opponents with solid chins, let alone one that will fight back relentlessly.

 

i would like to know how u are so sure crazy ike could deal with a skilled big man? who did he beat who was similar :think

 

Says who? I'll concede he ought Tua's fight and won, but who's to say he didn't know any other way? He certainly didn't look like any kind of silky smooth boxer against Byrd.

No disrespect, but it kills me when people say **** like this. Lewis beat every top heavy put in front of him. Ike beat two good prospects, but both had major flaws as heavyweights. Guaging Lewis is easy. Ike? Not so easy. Two fights doesn't make a champion. a Helluva prospect, butchampion? No.

 

Good post. I agree with all of it.

 

Big fighters have issues with fights that go on forever. This is common sense. Any big man would struggle with a small man that doesn't have the word quit in his vocabulary. Ike was crazy, and it is that crazy streak that would make him the champ today. The guy was fearless and would trade bombs with anyone and would beat the **** out of a guy's arms if the guy just defended all night like Byrd tried to do.

Lewis, Waldo and Vitlay are all big targets. And none of them could drop Ibeabuchi. If Tua couldn't do it on clean shots no way are any of those three getting it done. And what's left? To try and outbox him? Good luck when he slips your jab and gets inside constantly.

It also doesn't help that none of the big men of 2000+ knew how to fight inside. No uppercuts, no body work, nothing, I'd give Riddick Bowe a chance at beating Ibeabuchi on the strength of his inside work, but not those other three. Lewis also would never have beaten a prime Tyson or Holyfield either. He got them at the end of their careers where their greatest asset (speed) was gone.

 

I don't discredit Lewis' reign nor Waldo. Vitlay is a different story though.

I'm just saying that the best heavyweight in the world was locked up in prison during the 2000-2010 decade. That's all.

 

How are you so sure he can't handle a big man? If the absence of proof is the only reason, that works both ways. :deal