Sam Peter vs Tommy Loughran

Tommy Loughran shutout unanimous decision 15 rounds to Zero

 

Sam Peter is questionable at best in regards to how good a fighter he is. he got horribly outboxed in the first fight by a obese 37 year old middleweight, he got counterpunched silly all night long.........then he got knocked down 3 times and nearly outfought by a 38 year old jameel mccline.

 

Toney was shot for the rematch, thats pretty clear notice how he barely escaped in a split decision by that journeyman in his next fight? toney aged considerably from the first peter fight.


he floored wlad 3 times, but once again wlad has a history of losing to unheralded unrated fighters who made there legacies on one win over him. to me this shows me wlad is not as good as people think.



As for 1930, peter shows up way to overweight to fight in the 1930s. they would have made him trim down to 230lb had he fought during that era. perhaps he would do some roadwork for once.

 

Loughran was an all time light heavyweight champion and a master boxer however he could and was overpowered by bigger men ... Sharkey KOed him in three and he actually lost a decision to Carnera for the title ... if Peter was in shape I think he would have simply been too strong for Tommy ... again, Peter and shape is a huge if ...

 

Right,

Carnera had his way with Loughran. Peter would catch Loughran sooner or later, and that would be it. Keep in mind Peter beat James Toney, a very good boxer who could block and counter better than Lourghan could. In additon, I think Toney's got a very good chin. Peter also fought some slick Cuban fighter and waxed him early. Loughran was known for a good left, but Peter would have the range and size here, and I tend to doubt Loughran would dare go toe to toe.

Peter is not a bad boxer. He's got a decent jab, and seems to have ironed out some of his rough edges.

 

Loughran was past his prime when he fought carnera, not to mention carnera at 6'6 86" reach had 5" height advantage on sam peter. Sam peter at 6'1 would not be such a reach for loughran to hit.



I think a better example is max baer who like sam peter was a big durable powerful heavyweight but very crude and easy to outbox. Loughran beat max baer in wide unanimous.


I think loughran-peter would be similiar to loughran-baer

 

Is that a joke?

Loughran beat

6'11 232lb Victorio Campollo

6'9 255lb Ray Imptellietre

6'3 210lb Max Baer

6'2 200lb Ernie Schaff




How bout Sam peter against smaller men? 5'9 37 year old obese middleweight james toney outboxed sam peter badly in the first fight. loughran was much better than that version of toney.

 

No, Sam Peter went 1-1 with James Toney. He got badly outboxed in the first fight, and beat a shot version of toney in the rematch. Take note James Toney was 38 years old, Obese, and a former middleweight toney was nowhere near his best. Toney had no head movement, no movement, he beat peter alone with his shoulder rolls and counter rights.

Sam Peter has trouble with Good Mobile Boxers who move laterally, and sam peter is very wild and does not sport good defense. he will get jabbed apart the whole fight, and when he misses his wild bombs loughran will counter then dance away. it will be a classic boxer beats puncher.

Loughran wont need to block. hes not a 38 year old obese fighter like toney was, loughran can use his footwork and speed to avoid shots like gene tunney. I also dont think toney could counter better than loughran.

 

I might give Peter a round , but the "nightmare " would be his.

 

For me, Loughran is one of the highest rated boxers, when i first saw the thread the only thing i was a little worried about for Tommy was obviously the size, but i think Tommy would do this, he was a master, and against this guy, who has been given fits by boxers, its very possible that Loughran gets not a shutout, but something very close to that. Also though, i could see Peter catching him at some poiint?

I'll go with Loughran based on the styles match-up and the massive gulf in greatness.

 

Peter only lost one decision in 31 fights, and it was vs Wlad. Peter is not easy to out box and defeat over the distance.

Loughran lost decisions to guys like Stribling, DelAney, Stone, Pordea, Risko, Livenskey, Hamas, and many others. They landed more or landed the harder blows. Peter would do the same. Heck, I have the filmed fight of Loughran vs Jimmy Braddock, and it is competitive. Peter would not respect Loughran's blows at all. He would walk though Loughran. Peter is too big, too long, and too strong. He'd either club his way to a decision when Loughran fails to engage, or stop him when he lands.

Maybe Loughran could take it if the ring was 50 x 50, but let's be objective here.

 

Loughran was only stopped twice as a heavy ,by Steve Hamas and Jack Sharkey ,and he held victories over both of them Loughranbeat3 Me who heldhe heavyweight title Sharkey,Braddock ,and Baer,and gained wins over the likes of Risko,Griffiths,Levinsky,Uzcudun,Renault.He also beat Ray Impellitiere 3 times Ray weighed 239,254 and2551/2 for the fights so Tommy could handle size.If Loughran could outbox Max Baer and stay out of trouble doing it he would beat Peter imo.Baer slaughters Peter,who needs to get in shape.