Sam Peter was Broken Mentally

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  1. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Now, I know there are a many threads going on about the beating Klitschko gave, and why Sam Peter performed so poorly, but as I see it, Klitschko truly won the fight by beating Sam mentally.

    At the press conference, when Klitschko was holding on to the belt, Sam was already agitated by the fact that the thing was in German, foreign country and all that, but Klitschko standing there holding the belt really got to him. Mental Cut 1

    And it wasn trash talk coming from Vitali either, he wasnt in Sams face yelling. But if you watch it he was just speaking to him, very quietly, with an expression Don King described as "Sinister". He got into Peters head. Mental Cut 2

    The ring entrance also had to have played a part, hearing Vitali coming out to the crowds roar and then coming out to boos is always disconcerting for a fighter, it makes you feel lonely as hell. Mental Cut 3

    During the first round, when Peter got caught and stunned with the first counter right hand that Vitali landed, that took the fight out of him right there. He must have had flashbacks to when he was hurt in the McCline fight for one, and two never in his career had Peter been hurt that quickly. Vitali had already imposed himself
    Mental Cut 4

    Peter's reaction was immediate, he never expected I think to be hit that hard, I think in a way it reminded him of Wladimir, but then Vitali wasnt Wladimir, he is Vitali, and he wasnt bothered or troubled by anything Peter threw. Imagine Peter thinking "both these brothers can beat me?!" that would affect him as well. Mental Cut 5

    Look at the fight from Peters perspective. You are fighting a giant of a man, he is a whole head taller than you, looks like a Greek statue. He stands in front of you, leads you around the ring, and you CANT hit him. He leans away, counters you right back. You land a handful of punches, and they do nothing anyways. You cant even reach his head, you have to strain to look at him in the eyes, and when you look at him he knows and you know who is being dominated Mental Cut 6

    and Finally, this goes on round after round. Over and over, and your corner cant tell you what to do differently, you dont know what to do differently. He is hurting you over and over and thousands of people are cheering as you get battered. Mental Cut 7

    Mental Cut 8, and this is what broke Peter. You quit. You cant take it anymore, you are in pain, you can barely see, you know you are losing horribly, and you have had enough, and you quit. And whether people say it was smart or cowardly, you know in your heart that this man BEAT you, he BEAT you so badly you cant even finish the fight. You were not strong enough or good enough to finish the fight. You know it and so does everyone else. And however anyone else sees it, you know it makes him better than you, and that were the weaker dominated by the stronger.


    And that is why Peter lost how he did, why he performed like he did, and that is why I dont expect him to come back the same from this loss. He is done as a champion fighter, done as a force that thinks he can beat anyone. DONE

    This is why I love boxing, why I follow the sport, this is what I love to watch, and I will be damned if I didnt enjoy watching every last second of it.
     
  2. tylerrcurtis

    tylerrcurtis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree with everything you said and when you hear that you lost every round you are done i think that is what put him over the edge
     
  3. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I 100% agree with you.
    The Klitschko dont scream alot of **** in your face. They are very subtle and sinister in there mental warfare.

    Vitali didnt win the fight at the press conferences and face to face meetings with Peter, BUT Peter did lose the fight from all the face to face meetings.

    IMO Peter never did look comfortable at all
     
  4. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    yup...in Peter's mind a prolonged beating would have been in vain!!
     
  5. mexican legend

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    No doubt, realized he couldnt do **** so might as well pull out before he takes more damage.
     
  6. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    I also think open scoring had an impact on Peter quitting.
     
  7. drvooh

    drvooh Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do ya think he's as mentally broken as Lacy was after fighting Joe?
     
  8. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peter was surely beaten mentally. He would have virtually no chance in a rematch.
     
  9. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably.
     
  10. cdvandy

    cdvandy I'm Not Afraid Full Member

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    Peter just can't beat the Klitchko's. He's going to have to live with that and try to consistently be the 3rd best HW out there, because even that is up for debate at this point.
     
  11. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Worse. Lacy was gracious in defeat, he was completely outclassed, but his spirit was still there. I big part of that was finishing the fight, he wasnt going to give in, that was a huge deal to him.

    Even when a fighter is losing horribly, but they go the full 12, everyone talks about how unnecessary it is, but I understand it. To be able to take everything a fighter can dish out, to stand there and take it and not go down, not quit.

    To still be there standing at the end and if nothing else, be able to look at your conqueror in the eye and say "Im still standing, Im still here. You hit with everything you had and it wasnt enough, I still got up. I can still walk out of here a fighter".

    Peter doesnt have that though. He wasnt good enough to finish the fight, and he stopped it of his own accord. I think the guilt of admitting he was weak is what makes it worse for him. He wasnt good enough, he wasnt strong enough.

    Lacy finished on his feet, Peter finished with his head in his hands on his stool. He couldnt even finish standing up. And he was the one that called for it to end.

    Worse than Lacey.
     
  12. SteveO

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    Vitali is a smart man (most Ph.D's are :good) and even though most of the world was doubting his physical condition, he knew he was in damn good shape.

    Vitali knew he had the fight won before Peter even knew he lost it.
     
  13. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is a tough loss for Peter to recover from. Worse than Lacy's vs. Calzaghe because Lacy didn't quit. Gone is Peter's luster from his wins over Toney and Maskaev. Gone is the talk of his toughness. Gone is the talk about his improved skill. I think if he cuts weight and trains hard, he could get a title shot again.
     
  14. Tencount85

    Tencount85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Peter can still do well in the division. He just has to stay away from Klitschko's.
     
  15. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    Mental Cut 8 is a lot like what VitKLiT suffered against Chris Byrd...that was the quit one right...???