In both cases (Peter and Margarito) it's a very simple recipe. Not liking the guy's style (or respecting his 'skills') to begin with + LOTS of runaway train hype. + A general attitude/mentality/personality that rubs me the wrong way (on Peter's part, gloating over the undeserved first Toney win, fouling whenever nervous, the voodoo bull****; on Margarito's part, whining over the legit Williams decision, freaking out over the attention to Clottey's hand and suddenly making a big stink about how his hurt too, buying into his fans' ridiculous claims that he is the most deserving and worthy opponent for FMJ). Not hard to see how these ingredients might foment a permanent, seething hatred. :yep Plenty of guys didn't have amateur careers, I don't want to hear that kind of apologism. David Banks is a much, much, much better boxer than Samuel Peter. He doesn't have the chin or the punch however - which are Peter's meal ticket and the complete depth of his substance. He has improved, yes - from someone who didn't bother learning fundamentals because they skated by without needing them for awhile - to someone who finally out of desperation has attained a fragile childlike grasp on those fundamentals. I don't see him on the incline at all. I see him as someone who went from crude and completely unschooled to crude and a D+ student. He simply is not capable of the honor roll.
Is that suppose to prove something? Sam Peter is in his prime and the fact that you even think beating a 40 year old Golota would prove something speaks volumes about Sam Peter. Prime for prime it would be a blowout by Golota.
Not as though Golota is likely to knock him out, but Peter's chin is over-rated, even by you Zakman. This fight is actually a very simple equation. If Peter can penetrate Golota's limited (but somewhat improved) defenses, he will probably get the KO. However, if it goes the distance and Golota is his usual active self, than he gets a wide UD.
Not as though Golota is likely to knock him out, but Peter's chin is over-rated, even by you Zakman. This fight is actually a very simple equation. If Peter can penetrate Golota's limited (but somewhat improved) defenses, he will probably get the KO. However, if the fight goes the distance and Golota is his usual active self, than he gets a wide UD. Given Golota's improved determination and patience, the latter scenario is not unlikely.
I agree. I remmeber when Zak was all over Peter's chin, on how great it is. He's full of **** tho if he thinks Peter will KO him. Golota is fatser, smarter, and has better experience.
No point in addressing why you hate either guy. It's readily apparent and not something really worth bringing into this. Just discussing what we could label objective. I completely disagree with your assessment on AM experience and when it comes. A guy like Sam Peter has the power and the chin to make mistakes and get away with it. For a while at least. His punch and chin nearly took him all the way to the top in this extremely weak division. (A testament to how weak it is). But like any good fighter, when obstacles presented themself he went back to the drawing board and adjusted. People don't just know off the spur of the moment what to do. There are guys out there like Alexander Povetkin who was tested tough long before he turned pro. Going on his AM experience AND his revenge matches. Those are critical development points that have made him the pro he is today. The Sam Peter of today is a world different than the guy who would get by on clubbing opponents to win by KO/TKO. After making critical errors against a guy like McCline he still won on points. Not many guys can get up from 3 knockdowns to win a fight. And the last guy to do that was the guy considered the best boxer in the division. So I won't say he is where Povetkin is, because I think Povetkin's trials as an AM still far surpass Sam Peter's pro experience. But they will come. And it is absolutely absurd to think that he cannot learn from his experiences. He proved it in two back to back fights against Toney. Truthfully there are guys who never learn. But Sam Peter isn't one of them. He has already done things you'd never see a Jimmy Thunder or David Tua do.
I think Peter sucks. However, Golota is tailor made for Peter. Golota collapses under early pressure and that's the one thing peter brings.
Golota handled Mollo's initial onslaught very well. Did exactly what they trained and practiced for and didnt try to brawl like he did with Brewster. He should have done what he did today with Brewster and he would have probably won the fight. Golota isnt the mental psycho anymore people make him out to be... neither does he fight dirty or quit. Those days are all long gone.
Here's the problem with that assessment. Mollo is NOT Lamon Brewster. The guy was knocked out by TOS for pete's sake! Mollo may go on to become a better heavyweight. But from what I could tell, he isn't there yet. He's at best a Jeremy Williams level. At worst, he's another Mike Marrone. Mollo doesn't have the power to just blitz a guy like Golota and get him. Golota is not McBride, who is really a club fighter. Golota covered up on Brewster too, but that left hook to the body hurt too much to ignore. And then one more skipped a step upstairs as Golota's hands were at his ribs. 2 punches and Golota was on his way out. Mollo isn't strong enough to do that. I guess it shoulda been seen comin if Golota won tonight in any fashion the Golota express would be in full force. And this is coming from a Golota fan when I say this. He will NOT be a force in the division so long as it's ruled by punchers.
I'm sorry, but it's the truth. A prime Golota would probably be a much different story, but Peter is too strong and too powerful right now. He would find the mark with big right hands and stop him. Easy fight to pick...
Golota still had big right hands and is still a pretty decent powerfull puncher. This fight showed tonight, actually let me rephrase that, this whole card showed, Experience > Youth.
Experience was greater than youth was the case in Golota/Mollo and a couple other fights tonight, but you cannot take those select examples and apply it to a fight with Samuel Peter (who is much, much better than Mollo). Believe me; a prime Golota would seriously outbox Peter, but now, he doesn't have the movement, legs, or speed to beat him. Could he land some very good shots? Yes, but Peter's strength, clubbing power, and determination would wear him down. Golota would do better than he did in the Brewster fight though.