Sam Peter Would be BETTER for the HW division as undisputed champion

You have no proof that Peter would stop Byrd. It is very possible, especially given that Peter is slower than Povetkin and lacks his punch variey and mobility, would get outboxed by that version of Byrd. You hold up knocking an off balance Toney down, and "stunning" him as something great, but apparently Povetkin stopping Byrd, who has only been stopped by the more "passive" Wlad and Ike is not impressive. Ok, haha.

You guys have some crazy blind faith in someone who has consistently not lived up to the hype.

 

Most people thought he lost to Toney the first time, and he barely beat McCline. Povetkin has beat Chambers, Byrd and Donald, and Larry is better than McCline and at that point better than Toney, who was shot in the Rahman fight, and after Peter won a SD over Danny Batchelder.

Povetkin might very well beat Wlad, we don't know as the fight hasn't happened yet.

How would your boy do vs. Chagaev?

 

Actually Povetkin stunned Byrd a few times in the fight, but did Povetkin stop Byrd? Did Peter stop Toney?

 

And most people thought that Peter lost the first fight, which was why there was a rematch. Really Peter KO's Chagaev, even though Chagaev has never been down and he has fought guys like Virchis and Valuev, who are both bigger punchers than McCline. Yeah Donald is better than McCline, he is a better boxer with comparable or better KO percentage, and he doesn't gas after 4.

 

Yeah Byrd has been KO'd, by Wlad, Ike and Povetkin. Wlad is considered by most as the hardest hitter in the division, and many people thought Ike could be the next great champ due to his chin, punch, stamina and skill. I am positive if James fought Wlad, Chagaev or Povetkin he wouldn't hear the final bell. Fact remains your boy couldn't KO a former middleweight and you want us to believe he is the biggest puncher at heavy, get outta here.

 

Bryds chin is nothing impressive at this stage in his career, Mccline, Wlad, Povetkin all made him break. Povetkins best wins are over Larry "The Legend" Donald, who's only claim to fame is beating an old Holyfield and getting punked like a ***** at weigh in with Bowe, Bryd is old, and Chambers is pretty decent. Peter has wins over Toney twice and Mccline, Mccline is pretty even with Bryd now, Toney in the first fight is better than Chambers, Toney in the second fight is better than Donald, if you want to make there comp even, you can.

Peter will impress tomorrow, and you will have his poster in your room before weeks end.

 

Donald only lost to a prime Bowe, in what I believe was a title fight, Kirk Johnson pre-Ruiz, Vitali Klitschko, Valuev (in a fight many people thought he won), and Povetkin were he was totally dominated.

No Chagaev has only faced Virchis, who hits harder than Peter (Peter UD10 over Hawkins, Virchis KO4 Hawkins), and didn't get wobbled once.

 

Maskaev is almost 39 and has been KO'd five times, KO'ing him will not impress me, if it did I would say that Lance Whitaker and Corey Sanders should be champs.

Toney did absolutely nothing at heavy to qualify your statement. Chambers beat a legit contender in Brock, Toney couldn't beat a legit contender. McCline lost to Brock, who Chambers beat, Byrd was a two-time champ who also beat McCline, and Donald, aside from Johnson and Povetkin thus far, has only lost to champions.

 

Who is my boy now Fourty? Lay off the sauce. Your boy hasn't KO'd a top fighter yet, and the one he might KO has been stopped cold five times. Given that James is shot I think it makes quite a bit of sense to think that two skilled heavies with a punch, one of which can throw 950 punches over 12, would stop him.

 

Virchis has a higher KO percentage against similar comp. Sorry, that quantifiable data thing might be messing with your head a bit.

Also Toney had a draw with Rahman, in a fight most people thought Rahman won.

 

If Peter doesn't beat Oleg he will be out of the picture for a long time. The only hope for A title shot is,Valuev has to win his title back and since they both are managed by King he may get to leap frog over others. I donot see him getting by a lot of people.

 

You're probably the only person on this forum that thinks Wlad is "my boy," I simply stated the fact that he did KO McCline and has stopped more quality foes than Peter has beat. Both of those are fact. Maskaev has been KO'd five times you dolt, don't you get it if Peter knocks him out it doesn't prove he is the biggest puncher out there.

 

Toney has fought to 3 wins and a draw against these top oppenents, Rahman, Holyfield, Ruiz, and Guinn, none of them hurt Toney like Peter did, or beat him in the ring. Wlads chin sucks too, so I guess noone should get credit for beating him by your logic either, right? Maskaev has won 11 or 12 straight, and hasnt been knocked out in a long time, just like Wlad.

After Peter destroys Maskaev you will be silenced, because Peter will champ, and he will finally get the recognition he deserves.

 

I still don't understand this line of reasoning. He has been KO'd by Corey "Not Corrie" Sanders and Lance Whitaker, and no one is going out there proclaiming these two to be heavyweight greats.

By the way VR I understand this, not sure why I am arguing with them, I guess I just need to put some logical arguments out there for those reading.

 

Klitschko and Virchis both have higher KO percentages, and Wlad has done it against better opposition while Virchis has done it against mostly comparable opposition. Povetkin and Peter also have the same KO percentage.