Samuel Peter (prime) vs Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

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Samuel Peter (prime) vs Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

  1. Samuel Peter KO

    57.1%
  2. Samuel Peter Pts

    3.6%
  3. Deontay Wilder KO

    38.6%
  4. Deontay Wilder Pts

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  1. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    McCline would arguabbly rate higher then any of wilder's wins.
     
  2. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder would win but there is always danger against Peter.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    McCline lost to Szpilka, Arreola and even Harold Sconiers. Einstein.
     
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  4. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Wilder stops him...Peter was decent but Wilder's reach and speed prove too much.
     
  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And that shows you just how bad Wilders resume is that he would still rate as one of wilders best wins.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No. That shows how bad the general forum on this site is when it comes to boxing knowledge and rating fighters.

    You guys simply have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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  7. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In the ring, Wilder. In checkers.....50/50
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    McCline stepped in on short notice after Maskeav pulled out. He horribly gassed after 4 rounds and barely threw a punch for the est of the fight.
    Its the only reason Peter won.

    Peter would have his hands full with Breazzele who wouldn't completely gas out like McCline did.

    McCline was at the end of his prime too. He lost to John Ruiz right after and not long after that he was destroyed by Chris Arroela.
     
  9. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you cough wilders nuts out of your mouth when you speak.
     
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  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Prime Peter was undefeated till Klitschko took his soul with that left hook in the twelfth. Don`t see how Wilder can run for 12 rounds without being KOed. He won`t survive like Klitschko did. Wilder doesn`t have Klitschko footwork, neither his technique or jab.
    6-8 rounds and Wilder being stretched.
     
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  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How can you type and suck on Jameel McCline's PED tits at the same time?

    You're on ignore, moron.

    One less dumbass to deal with.

    Bye.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did Jovo Pudar or Charles Shufford RUN for 10 rounds when they went the distance with "prime" Sam Peter?

    Sam Peter didn't have great power (his KO percentage is average). He was floored more than a half dozen times. He quit a couple times on his stool. He tended to choke in big fights. His conditioning was often poor.

    I watched Sam Peter his whole career. I have no idea who you guys are describing. That's not the guy I remember. "Prime" or not.

    I've watched Sam Peter and Jameel McCline their whole careers ... Wilder beats the living hell out of those two slow, stand-straight-up-and-get-hit-flush, stiff cows.

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  13. WildersGlassJaw

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    First bomb Peter lands on this glass mandible, it's all over.

    It happens quick, Peter KO 1
     
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  14. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That still sounds more impressive then anything Wilder did in his entire career
     
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  15. andrewa1

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    Some really absurd minimizing of Peters standing on this thread. Wilder has put himself firmly ahead of Peter at this point in terms of overall legacy, I don't dispute that. But, not only would Peter be, by FAR, the best single win Wilder has ever had (KO 1 indeed, what bull****), his resume itself is actually fairly comparable to Peters resume up until when Vitali ruined him. Let's break this down by examining the resume of Peter (up until immediately before the Vitali loss) and Wilder. I might follow up later by looking at the respective resumes of Ortiz and Stiverne I pitted against the resumes of Peters best wins, in Toney and Maskaev (let's just say that while I technically rate those wins equivalently, on a resume basis Peters best two vanquished opponents have a clear lead over Wilders)

    Peter: Best wins: 1 Toney (x2), a clear top 5 HW at the time. 2. Oleg Maskaev a clear top 5 HW at the time. 3. Jameel McCline, a fringe top 10 HW at the time.
    Other factors: About 3 fringe top 25 hws and a few other top 50 hw wins. A very close loss to one of the two ATG hws of the era, in Wlad. IN FACT, you can make good about as good a case Peter deserved the draw against Wlad as you can that Wilder deserved the draw against Fury. Main difference is Wilder had more juice to get a favorable decision going into his fight than Peter had going against Wlad.

    Wilder: Best wins: 1. Ortiz, a clear top 5 HW at the time 2. Stiverne, a top 5 HW at the time 3. Scott, a fringe top 10 HW at the time

    Other factors. No other win over even a fringe top 10 HW (though Big Dom will count if he gets that win). I count 6 wins over fringe top 25 and a few other wins over top 50ish opposition. A close draw over an arguable ATG of the era in Fury, which most think should have been a loss.

    Conclusion. Peter has a bit more depth in his top 10 wins, Wilder in his wins over the next tier down. Wilder got a legacy enhancing draw in a great fight against top oppo when Peters lack of clout prevented him from getting a similar result, despite a starling similar performance.

    Now, before people start bringing up how Peter cratered after Vitali A. Vitali ruined him and B we don't know how the rest of Wilders career is going to go. He could tank in a similar manner to Peter for all we know. The point is, this thread is about PRIME Peter. Prime Peters resume, if not standing, was very comparable to Wilders current resume.
     
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