Samuel Peter (prime) vs Deontay Wilder - Who wins?

Looks like I'm arguing with Dino's alter ego lol
Ignored...

 

Thank you.

You're annoying.

 

Samuel Peter does a 'Duhaupas' on this fraud Wilder, or maybe even goes a step further to actually knock him out. We all saw how much of an other-worldly feather fist Wilder looked, when multiple of his best shots literally bounced off suspect chinned Duhaupas with no effect whatsoever. So there's no reason to assume Wilder would KO a PRIME Peter, when he never even came close to KO'ing a suspect chinned Duhaupas who was literally put to sleep by a feather-fisted blown up light heavyweight named Alexander Povetkin. That just goes to show how pathetic and lacking Wilder's power truly is.

Unless you're making extreme short work of clowns and scrubs like Duhaupas, then you're power is going to have to be severely questioned.

On top of that, this Duhaupas (who is also a feather-fist, mind you) was able to close one of Wilder's eye whilst landing half the punches Wilder landed on him. Goes to show how fragile and vulnerable Wilder is.

I wouldn't be at all surprised, if Peter literally walked right through and literally laughed off Wilder's best shots as if they were coming from a housewife in need, whilst proceeding to do double the damage feather-fisted Duhaupas inflicted on him.

 

Prime Peter did walk right through Wladimirs shots in the first fight, but Klitschko survived 3 KDs and still was able to outbox Peter. Wilder would get wrecked.

 

Double, I like you most of the time too. You always have some good points in defense of Wilder. I'm much higher on Wilder than the vast majority of people on this board. Even when you go over the top imo, it's good to see someone going too far for Wilder for once to counterbalance the usual going too far the other.

But the fact remains, really nothing you and @dinovelvet criticize Peter for can't be rationally used against Wilder if, lets say, Wilder fights AJ later in this year, gets KO'd, and then starts a slide and loses to some people he probably would have beat earlier. And they would point to all the bad moments of Wilder's career before this (losing rounds to Spilzka, Washington, kd'd by Sconiers, being off balance etc etc) as evidence of that. Would you decide Wilder was a sham all along at that point? Or just that AJ was a bit better on that night and Wilder wasn't the same afterward?

It wouldn't be fair to Wilder to write off his career if that happens. Nor is it fair to Peter.

Of course Wilder has a better legacy than Peter. But its naïve to make that a night and day question. Their resume's really aren't very different, if one ceases looking at Peter's right before he faced Vitali, as my side by side comparison notes. If he had the political juice Wilder had against Fury, he easily could have gotten a draw against Wlad, and at that point he becomes the clear best non K of the K era in legacy, and he would be much closer to Wilder's legacy even with the collapsed career after Vit.

For h2h, I personally think Wilder looks a bit vulnerable off the backfoot to powerful HW who can hit hard. Pre Wlad II, Peter showed an iron chin, and all the other traits I suspect would give Wilder problems. Styles make fights. I think Wilder would have a much better chance against either K than Peter had against them. But I think its a style problem for Wilder for a fighter with those traits at that level. That said, by no means would I be shocked if Wilder won, even by knockout. Nevertheless, KO1 for someone who would be by far Wilder's best win, when Wilder hasn't had a ko1 in years against much lesser opp? Come on Double, I can't imagine you actually believe that.

 

Peter was very tough in his prime.

I would take him by mid round tko.

 

Let's see

This is Wilder's list of Defences

Dominic Breazeale
Tyson Fury
Luis Ortiz
Bermane Stiverne
Gerald Washington
Chris Arreola
Artur Spilka
Johann Duhaupas
Eric Molina

I think we can all agree that 2005 Sam Peter KOs all of them, bar Fury, in 3/4 rounds.

And Wilder was rocked by Ortiz and Molina, neither have proven anything like McCline did. As a side note I'd only make Wilder a slight favourite against McCline

Hmmm

How did you possibly come to that conclusion? Since stepping up to 'world level' wilder has only KOed in 4 rounds or less is an old fat inactive Stiverne, who wasn't exactly a world beater anyway. His win over Liakahovich is his best win inside 1, and that was an old Liakahovich. Peter was much better than anyone Wilder has beat. Let alone beat in 1.

If it goes late I'd favour Wilder but if not then Peter will have already won, there is no way Wilder could take what Wlad landed on Peter and there's ABSOLUTELY no way Wilder takes what Peter landed on Wlad

I hope you reply mate, or will you just use my age as a cop out and just lie to yourself more about your hero

 

Firstly, Avoiding the original point. Peter has wins over McCline, Toney 2* and Maskeav, all of which are better or on par with Wilder's best win. Wilder has been soundly outboxed on multiple occasions against lesser opposition and has never faced anyone as good as Wlad and has never beaten anyone as good as a past prime Vitali. Sure Peter has quit, but so has Liston and Ali I'm happy to put both of them above Wilder

Another way of saying this is
Wilder has only faced one guy with a pulse who he robbed and so is undefeated with a massive KO rate from the lack of quality he has faced

Peter always fought the best, Wilder sits behind WBC corruption and prays to the lord that Joshua didn't show up. He has also stated multiple times that he wants to kill people in the ring and has brought up other men's children. Wilder is a shitty champion

See my other post

 

I was with you until you said that Ruddock would've definitely destroyed Lewis, no version of Ruddock would've destroyed the Lewis that Destroyed Ruddock

 

Sam Peter (until his durability folded), would've been one of the few guys that could've actually likely walked through multiple Wilder right hand shots to deliver his. Wlad unloaded on him and didn't really rock him until round 12.

This would've been a crazy wild swinging fight. If Peter's chin held up, I think he'd have stopped Wilder, because eventually Peter always caught you with something (then again so does Wilder).

50/50 fight.

 

Wilder easily KO's Sam. Wilder would keep his distance and measure Sam with that straight right. Sam was very easy to hit.

 

Wilder would likely get KO'd by a wild Haymaker, while outboxing Peter. Prime Sam Peter, had certified, iron, granite, or whatever you want to call it.

 

Wilder doesn't outbox anybody. He assassinates them. Peter getting outboxed means eating multiple power shots over and over.

Nobody can take those bombs and keep coming , especially not Peter whose chin is overrated. . Peter will get star fished like he did against Helenius. A face first plodder like him is Wilder bread n butter. The fight is a grotesque mismatch.

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Key word "prime" Peter ate flush bombs from Wlad for most of 12 rounds. That my friend, is certified Iron.

As I asked in another topic, what Ibeabuchi, Tua, Atomic Bull etc has Wilder KO'd for people to make such foolish claims? He's KO'd nobody who had a chin on that level.

He has stopped bums, French Chefs, old men on blood pressure meds etc., but he's also been put on the Queerest of streets by them at times also.

 

Wlad did not unload on Peter for 12 rounds.

Wlad spent the majority of the fight in panic mode while running away and holding on for dear life. Wlad is mentally weak and cannot deal with the thought with taking a punch.
Peter took illegal hug after illegal hug from Wlad. When he took a clean punch his legs turned to jelly and he was ready to go.

Against Wilder he would take flush power punch after flush power punch which would leave him in a crumpled heap within 4 rounds.

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