~ Samuel PETER v. Oleg MASKAEV ~ ANALYSIS and PREDICTION Thread ~

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even before the Peter-McCline sh*t I've said that this is a fight which Maskaev can actually pull off. He's got pretty good boxing skills, speed and stamina. And Peter is a good opponent in style for him.

    But after a good 15 months of layoff and injuries now I'm not so sure anymore. My opinion haven't changed after the McCline fight because I've already knew that Sam can get in trouble against decent opposition and then McCline f*ckd up the great odds for me to be rich:twisted: :| . Anyways, now it's a 50-50 matchup, maybe a slight favor for Peter. 15 months is too much. That's the only problem.

    But as I've picked Maskaev anyway, and it wouldn't be fair to change it. I'm going for the upset. Maskaev UD/late TKO.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ESB hasn't done very well analysing and predicting on the Povetkin v. Chambers fight. Let's try and do better on this one.:good
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Peter will stop Maskaev within 5
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Are you sure? Or "Povetkin will stop Chambers before the 9th" sure?:think

    :D

    :good

    We need some careful, proper analysis of these fights. I have been lazy myself and have never seen any of these two, except in clips. But we need to start doing some proper analysis, as we did last year, for the big fights.

    :good
     
  5. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Nah, on this one, I'm sure...:D

    I'll write up an analysis a little later
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thanks!:D
     
  7. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I perdicted a Povetkin decision victory, the only thing I was partially wrong about was I thought it would be a little more competitive.

    I am also perdicting an early knockout for Peter, I have done alot of research and discovered that Maskaev is a sucker for the overhand right, something Peter can land quite often. I just hope Peter comes into this fight in shape and ready to destroy competition in short fashion.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thank you!:good
     
  9. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The closer we're getting to fight night, while I'm still predicting Peter to win the more I'm wondering if it might be by points instead. Maskaev's chin has let him down against lighter punchers than Peter, but Maskaev has picked up better ringcraft as the years have gone by and Peter's clubbing style could work against a clean KO.
     
  10. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    I discovered Peter is a sucker for the uppercut especially when he was stumbling around like the town drunk :yep
    And when u have to say "i hope" in reference to a fighter, it's only a matter of time before he gets starched.

    To tell u the truth, I would slighly lean towards peter due to maskaev's injuries, inactivity, and age but it is worth the gamble to see u sporting a Scam Cheater avatar for a month leaving u and your fellow Peter nuthuggers fresh out of excuses. Maskaev UD 116-112.
     
  11. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt your wish will come true, and you the thought of you and GURU sporting a avatar of Peter knocking down Wlad is worth the gamble.:yep

    I understand Peter didnt look good against Mccline, but he still dug deep and pulled out the victory. I think Peter was not well prepared for his oppenent and this time he has months to prepare for Maskaev, not less than 10 days to come into a ring with a game fighter like Mccline.
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    ANALYSIS OF MASKAEV vs PETER

    What do you think each will bring to the table?
    Maskaev: Experience, physical strength, heavy hands, excellent power (including late round power), superior technical boxing skills, very solid short right hand, good stamina, good timing, heart/fighting spirit, and the will to win. Negatives include ring rust (15 months), age, lack of legs, very shaky chin (brutally knocked out 5 times), injuries, succeptability to the overhand right, and below average speed.

    Peter: Youth, physical strength, clubbing punching power, superior jab, superior speed, big overhand right, improving technical skills and long-range fighting ability, decent stamina, good chin, proven heart, fighting spirit, and will to win. Negatives include his ring rust (has fought only once since January 2007), questionable training habits, defensive liabilities, lack of snap, and while his chin is listed as a good asset, it is somewhat questionable at this point due to the 3 knockdowns he suffered against McCline.

    What do you expect their strategy to be?
    Maskaev: Oleg will want to play it safe early and not be overly aggressive, trying to establish his jab and keep Peter at a distance where his height and reach advantages will come into play. His legs are key here; if he has good legs, he can move laterally and avoid Peter's shots, he has a solid chance to outbox him. If he doesn't have legs, he's in for a bad night having to stand in front of Peter. He will try to get Peter's respect and hurt him by timing him with straight right hands and uppercuts as Peter moves in. I suspect Oleg wants to catch Peter with straight shots in between Peter's looping punches. If he gets into the later rounds, he will step on the gas pedal, throw more punches, and start sitting down on his power shots looking to stop Peter after seeing the success McCline had.

    Peter: Peter will come out of the gate pumping his left jab as he has done in the first Toney fight, second Toney fight, and McCline fight. He will look to test Maskaev early on and will be putting the pressure on him. I see Peter looking to make a statement and sit down on his power shots with the hopes on ending it early. If he doesn't get the early knockout, he will be content with trying to establish his jab, trying to outbox Maskaev, and looking to steal rounds by being more active in the last 20-30 seconds. I've believe Peter is a smarter fighter than he is given credit for; if he sees the knockout isn't coming, he makes adjustments and trys to win rounds.

    How could each win?
    Maskaev: Maskaev could win this fight by 1) Hurting Peter early with something he doesn't see coming and finishing him off unlike McCline, 2) Surviving/winning most early and mid rounds, tiring Peter out, and stopping him late like he did with Rahman, or 3) moving laterally to avoid Peter's shots, outboxing him, outworking him, hitting him with the cleaner/more precise punches, and taking advantage of Peter's wider shots by countering him and timing him en route to a 12 round decision. To me, a key question in regards to Maskaev is how much he has left and how much the inactivity will hurt him.

    Peter: Peter can win in several ways also. 1) He could land something big early and knock out Oleg, 2) Outbox Oleg behind his left jab like he did in the rematch with Toney and with McCline in the mid/late rounds, or 3) put a sustained beating on Oleg and stop him in the late rounds. Most importantly for Peter though is the shape he comes in. Anything over 254-255 and he's in trouble - Maskaev's superior conditioning will show. Quite simply, Peter needs to come in shape. The questions regarding Peter are how his chin will hold up and whether or not he actually has the snap on his punches to stop Maskaev.

    How do you think this fight will play out?
    I expect Peter to start out fast, work his jab, and keep Oleg fighting off of the backfoot. Oleg will look very old, slow, and rusty and Peter's youth will show. Expect him to land the more effective punches. I don't think Oleg has the legs needed to beat Peter, so he will end up exchanging with the Nigerian. To me, this is the wrong way to fight Peter, and with his chin (which is worse than Peter's), I don't envision Maskaev holding up for long. He often gets tunnel vision and gets hit with overhand rights and wide left hooks. His style plays right into Peter's hands.

    What is your prediction?
    Samuel Peter TKO5 Oleg Maskaev


    One final thought: these are two big heavyweights, so anything can happen. Should be a great fight.
     
  14. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    maskaev = too old , glass chin , too slow...
    But then again that didn't stop him from beating rahman in their rematch...
    so who ****in 'knows...

    maybe if he comes with an ultra solid game plan...but that's a big IF.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thank you for that great analysis!:good