Samuel Peter vs Joe Bugner...

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  1. JohnThomas1

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    Can the Peter we saw yesty overcome the odds and beat a peak Bugner?? Or will Joe simply outwork him.
     
  2. The Kurgan

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    Bugner UD. His footwork is far, far too good. He could jab and move and barely get hit.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Peter UD. If you can't get Peter's respect, he's going to walk though you. Bugner was a medium puncer at best, and very defensive.
     
  4. Russell

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    Goes the distance, either way. Bugner was stupidly durable his entire 40 year career.
     
  5. young griffo

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    Bugner had a good jab,tight defense and respectable handspeed (at least compared with Peter)plus he was hard to stop and I reckon at his peak he wins a very comfortable unanimous decision against Peter.
     
  6. TBooze

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    Joe would lose interest pretty quickly when tasting a bit of Peter's power.

    Peter WU10
     
  7. fists of fury

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    I see Peter's stocks have soared since the weekend. :D
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    ;)
     
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    How the mighty have fallen.
     
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    Nothing 'mighty' about this matchup. I'd favour Peter actually.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    He was never mighty with me.
     
  12. Boro chris

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    Bugner on a shutout. If he could be bothered that is.
    I really do think Peter is ****ing awful!:D
     
  13. smiffy

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    bugner managed to get through an ali fight without ever being that hurt, so what a fat sam peter gonna do ?
     
  14. kenmore

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    I think Bugner would win a close, unimpressive decision. There would be lots of mauling and wrestling, but Bugner would land just enough slapping, cuffing left jabs to pull ahead on the scorecards.

    Normally I would favor Peter in this kind of fight, because Bugner was known to go into a defensive shell against strong, world class punchers who could back him up. Just watch Bugner's fight against Ron Lyle to get an idea of what I mean. However I believe Peter is a little too muscle bound, ponderous and slow to exploit Bugner's defensive mindedness.

    The crowds would boo every round of this fight, as it would be sloppy and boring. However I think Bugner does just enough jabbing and boxing to win it.
     
  15. The Kurgan

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    If Peter tries to walk through Bugner, Bugner will move out of the way. Bugner is a more skilled boxer than Peter has ever had to deal with.

    If Peter catches Bugner with a hard shot and stuns him (and given that Peter has only 23 KOs in all his fights I find this rather unlikely) then that's going to make things a lot harder for Peter, because Bugner would become more defensive. Peter lacks the skills to take advantage of a tentative Bugner, who would do just enough to avoid rounds. Peter is only effective at a ludicriously limited range: he gets tied up easily and he lacks the footwork or speed to be good on the outside; Bugner has more than enough skill to control the distance with Peter.

    Bugner isn't an old Jeremy Williams or an old James Toney. At his prime he was a big, strong, skilled and durable heavyweight contender in a fiercly competitive era. Peter is yet to beat anyone of note who isn't 5-10 years past their best. When he does so, maybe we can talk about him being competitive with someone like Joe Bugner.