See this is relative...when he had this so called mediocre years.. He drew with a terrific fighter still in peak in Uno.. he lost a competitive fight to Machida...(one of the few who landed on Lyoto) He beat a game Gomi who went on win 20 straight after BJ... dominated a still prime Renzo made quick work of an elite heralded striker in Bang Ludwig... Took a steamrolling GSP to the limit... had a still prime Hughes b4 he got injured..yes he was injured! You talk about GSPs resume and its great but dont forget BJs level of comp...and hes always the smaller man The thing with BJ is that his career has been widely documented..He was unbelievably skilled and had the pressure to be the best ever..sure he disappointed some fans but you cannot deny his greatness and potential to be the all time best... I love Fedor and yes he is undefeated..hes the same age as BJ but in the last two years..you cannot compare their level of competition..Not even close.. This is what Im saying..right now you can make a case that since the sport has evolved quickly..we are witnessing the 4 best fighters the game has ever known.. Fedor, GSP, Silva and Penn...they are very close...If one of those 4 say like BJ beating GSP or GSP beating Silva..its bound to elevate them and surpass the others...there can only be one I must add that if Silva bcomes a LHW champ as well..He must be considered...
First of all, BJ is my favorite fighter. But having the potential, and actually accomplishing, are two different things. Penn has all the potential in the world. It's his lack of dedication to the sport that has haunted him. Sure BJ has fought stiff competition. And he can still be the greatest of all-time. But right now, I rank St-Pierre well up there.
Thats why I said if he beats GSP..Imagine that beating someone whos well up there...Thats an incredible accomplishment
Also its not like BJ has been a letdown from the get go..This kid destroyed Uno when he was wet behind the ears.. Koed Din Thomas who was a higher contender than him at a time...He was Dins stepping stone for a fight with Jens.. He fulfilled his potential..but to his standards..not well enough
True. BJ's awesome. When he's focused and prepared, it's very difficult to beat him. That's the reason I'm looking forward to his fight with St-Pierre. Penn has already fought Georges. He knows what GSP brings to the table. And St-Pierre will surely train like a maniac for this fight. It's going to be an amazing fight. But it hurts me to say that I see St-Pierre coming out on top.
I'll give it to Fedor by a hair even if those two doesnt hold a candle to GSP as far as p4p or as far as a tougher challenge.. Arlovski and BArnett are great fighters but have some glaring weaknesses.. GSP doesnt have that Reason Im giving it to Fedor is Im curious about Arlovski...hes dangerous..He can either be Koed in the 1st or give you a hell of a fight
Both have basically cleared out their respective divisions. They have done so in rather dominating fashion. Both are very well rounded. So what's your counter arguement? Because I'm ready to defend my opinion.
Cause, BJ penn beats GSP and you BARELY giving it to Fedor over gsp? Did you read the question wrong or are you up GSP's butt? My question was really about BJPenn being considered a greater MMAist if he beats GSP over Fedor who beats Arlovski and Barnette.
How am I suppose to understand it? At what point? If you talking about right now, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked...