Sanchez vs Pacman at 126

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JM22, Jun 24, 2008.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    if those fights are digitized (video files on computer like .avi or .mpeg) it's easy to upload in youtube.

    i understand pretty well your dillema and it is kind of tough. the only solution is to edit selected rounds unless you had your suppliers permission to upload it full. but still you can give it to just selected people who are genuinely interested to see the fight. i understand that you have payed some bucks just to acquire these fights?
     
  2. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yea, but its not the money that is the issue, but instead I don't want to put a bunch of fights up that he is making a livelihood selling. I think the solution is to set up a private account and place select rounds on for viewing and invite you guys on.
     
  3. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    highlights are also good, i'm also **** on computers btw:yep
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    how does this private account work? well if it's kind of complicated we'll just wait for the youtube clips of any highlights of a fight. but this requires some work.
     
  5. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Funny that. Pac was the underdog for their first fight. Watch the fight, you'll hear Merchant mention it at the start.

    *Edit got the fights confused. Anyhow I looked at it and the Morales-Pac odds for the first fight were practically even, so dont know where this idea of him being expected to run over Morales is coming from. Most considered Morales to be the toughest fight out there because of his chin which is the antidote to power.

    As for people saying Sal beats Pac because he was a better version of JMM, I really dont see where that comparison comes from. JMM is alot more textbook, faster, combinations are crispier and straighter. If anything Sanchez resembles MAB more, with more power perhaps.
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You see I would favour Pac over Pep but no way in hell he could beat Arguello. Arguello is prossibly the worst possible fighter for Pac, simmilar as Hearns is to PBF.

    IMO Pac would run over Pep. He has the speed to keep up with him, explosiveness, strength, size and power to bother him. Dont forget that Pac really is more like a WW if same day weigh-ins were in place.

    JMM is a different kind of fighter from Pep, hes a counterpuncher but in a different mold from pep. IMO JMM has more pop in his punches and throws those combinations alot better thus getting Pac's respect. I think pep would outbox Pac for the first few rounds until Pac catches up to him and breaks him, he wont get Pacs respect. Pep also seems to keep his hands down alot, as do many older fighters, punches wider moving around. JMM would wait for Pac to throw and then throw 4 punch combination, crisp, straight and fast. Pep would potshot and throw wider shots. Pep would be great against slower swarmers, Castillo & Chavez like...but IMO not for a boxer-puncher with Pac's physical gifts.
     
  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Can I ask what footage you have seen of Pep that makes you think this?

    The parts I underlined here make me think you haven't seem much of him to be honest. He wasn't a potshotter or a wide puncher. If you have only watched the Saddler fight, you may be left with that impression, but I assure you its not true. Pep could absolutely open up and throw punches every bit as textbook as Marquez.
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I think youtube has accounts that are set to membership only, so that people have to apply to see your videos.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Pep would've boxed circles around Pacquiao at his best.
     
  11. PATSYS

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  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ive seen both Saddler fights and a couple of documentaries on him so plenty of clips. My point still stands, Pac would have a huge weight advantage over as Pac owuld be coming in at 144lb. Saddler was considered too big and strong for Pep and on the 1st fight, he really was. Saddler doesnt posses the speed and explosivenes of Pac.

    I never said he was a potshotter. He likes to potshot, you see him slipping punches and then potshotting, simmilar to what RJJ sometimes does but can also throw beautiful combination. Pep's combination doesnt look like they have much in them though and to top it off, this guys has his hands dangerously low constantly. He gets hit now and again and I think he will kiss the canvas everytime Pac lands one with his hands down bending over.

    Pep fights alot like Pea and IMO Pea would UD him wide, if not KO. Also alot of the HL where pep looks amazing were against guys with 20wins 40losses records, of course hes gonna look amazing against bums. Ive only seen him against Saddler full fight and he didnt look too amazing then, though he was suppose to be past prime whilst still fighting 100 fights after that.
     
  13. TommyV

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    Sanchez TKO.

    Pacman is awful on a H2H basis.
     
  14. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Right, you have seen youtube footage which I an any poster who has other footage of Pep would tell you is not up to par with what he was capable of.

    I wouldn't post in a thread about a boxer that I hadn't really seen enough of, particularly one with hundreds of fights when all I can get my hands on is a fight or two against the boxer that brought the worst out of him. But you continue to so lets debate.

    At 126lbs?

    When did Pac come in at 144lbs as a 126lb boxer?

    Saddler possesed plenty that Pac doesn't. You act as if it was only the weight while its clear that it was the height and range that Saddler brings to the table that troubled Pep more.

    This sounds like Pacland talk to me, sorry. You said previously his combinations were wide, now they are beautiful. You have a problem with the positioning of his hands, but boxers like Pep, Jones, and SRR could do that and obviously still fight effectively.

    I love how you discredit boxers who fought other boxers with losses on their records. That was the norm in that era.

    So Pep fights like Pea, yet you think Pea UD's Pac but Pep gets KO'd?

    Ok. :think

    You are now placing doubt on whether Pep was past his prime by pointing out the fact that he fought effectively beyond that date. Thats a sad attempt to discredit him.

    Its actually a testament to Pep that he was able to do that.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Sanchez by schooling.

    :yep