Sandy Ferguson vs Denver Ed Martin who wins?

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Sandy Ferguson vs Denver Ed Martin who wins?

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  1. Historical boxing society

    Historical boxing society Member Full Member

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    Fighter's who could of meet in real life....

    Sandy Ferguson born 1879

    Denver Ed Martin born 1881

    i'd imagine this taking place spring of 1909

    Denver Ed Martin 27 years old coming off
    Victor McLaglen 3 round KO

    Sandy Ferguson 29 years old coming off a 12 Draw with Sam Langford...


    Sandy Ferguson tests himself against another Black fighter in a younger Denver Ed Martin...can his chin hold up?
    Both got some long reach here and lots of jabs.

    12 Rounds.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Don't know but I dig the thread!
     
  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two ways to look at this.

    Peak Martin was closer to being the best HW and was ranked higher then Ferguson ever was.

    Peak Ferguson was better then peak Martin because boxing got much better over the course of the first decade of the 20th century.

    Martin had the earliest steepest regression of any top HW ever. And the reason is the sport was evolving quickly and fighters either evolved with it or got left behind whether they were in their primes or not. Ferguson got better with the times and Martin didn't.

    Martin was "supposed" to be the best black HW during Jack Johnsons time and Johnson wasn't "supposed" to beat him. But Johnson improved a great deal and broke free of those expectations. Martin didn't.
     
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  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Peak Denver Ed appeared to be at a different level.
     
  5. Historical boxing society

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    Perhaps... but in order for this to be true Denver Ed would have to be capable to draw with Langford, Ferguson was capable. Ferguson was a tough crafty fighter with good footwork he wasn't a big stiff white hope who looked awkward. He improved each year for awhile, Ferguson went 20 rds with Johnson his chin was far superior to Denver Ed Martin. Skill wise Denver ed may have him beat its debate able. Denver Ed was one of the first fighters to control a fight with a jab. He had a nice piston jab going at his best with very long reach. His biggest win to me was when he walked right through Hank Griffin who had to be at least somewhat expected to win, Griffin was a bigger name before the fight happened, but Denver Ed had no problems. His stock was sky high after that fight. But that's a bit before 1909 for sure.

    I can almost assure everyone Ferguson is better than you may remember..He's in a time frame where he gets a bit lost. He can in at weird angles and made it difficult to tell where the punch was coming from. That's almost the exact statement from Jack Johnson about him.
     
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  8. janitor

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    I think that Martin was the better fighter, but if they fought two or three times, I could see Ferguson winning one.