Sandy Saddler vs Salvador Sanchez 126 Primes

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  1. mcvey

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    Good post ,whatever was happening Sanchez had admirable sang froid in the ring .I'm going for the other SS, Sandy for me.
     
  2. Reinhardt

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    Agreed , we didn't get to see enough Sanchez to pick him over Saddler
     
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  3. SuzieQ49

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    But we did. He knocked out three hall of famers and defeated 5 world champions
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Getting a split decision over Pat Cowdell, beating a green Nelson, and a Gomez coming up in weight doesn't cut it for me.
     
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  5. ETM

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    He took the title from a pretty good champion in Little Red and confirmed in the rematch. He was 23 when he passd so yes there was much more for him to do. Sanchez passes the eye test though. I think he gives any Feather a run for their $
     
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  6. ETM

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    Impressive considering he was 23
     
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  7. SuzieQ49

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    So against cowdell, Sanchez isn’t allowed to have one off night? Some of your favorite fighters had much more embarrassing off nights against lesser opponents.

    Bottom line, Sanchez was one of boxing history’s ultimate competitors..the better the opponent, the more he rose to occasion. He was as mentally tough as anyone in history


    He twice dominated hall of famer Danny Lopez, knocked out an undefeated prime hall of famer Wilfredo Gomez who went on to win a featherweight championship years later, Gomez is one of the biggest punchers in ring history. Nelson fought as good a fight against Sanchez as any in his entire career. In fact, on film never again would Nelson fight at a work rate and show stamina like he put up against Sanchez. Young fighters tend to be able to improve quickly and put up great performances early in their careers if they are at their physical peaks. Think 15-0 Witherspoon against Holmes

    Not to mention beating future world champion Laporte and defeating some very good contenders in a loaded 126 era like ford, Castillo, castanon

    That is an incredible resume for a 126, not many in history can match that resume!
     
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  8. mcvey

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    He sure does.Did he do anything Saddler couldn't have done do you think?
     
  9. mcvey

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    Nelson was short of his prime and every objective poster would accept that he was 23 years old having his 14th fight.
    Gomez successfully went up to Feather 3 years later, when his body was ready for it.
    Saddler was 145-16-2 with a 100 ko's and he was often fighting lightweights such as Brown, Demarco ,Salas and Carter He stopped Brown,Demarco and Salas and drew with Carter.That tops Sanchez scalps imo.
     
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  10. ETM

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    Probably not. Saddler is rare air at 126lbs.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

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    Come on...you’re attempting to pick apart a fantastic record one of the best fighters who ever lived. Not only is he a rare talent seen throughout history, but he also fought and beat most of the best of his era.

    Again, if you’re going to apply that green standard with Nelson, make sure you apply that same standard to 14 fight Timmy Witherspoon when he took on Holmes.

    Nelson was a bit green, but have you seen the fight? It’s one of the greatest fights of all time. I doubt there are more than a handful of featherweights throughout history who could have beaten Nelson that night. While he was more intelligent 5 years later, Nelson the night he fought Sanchez was at his physical peak. Never before did he demonstrate stamina and such a high volume of punching like he did that night. And Sanchez cracked that iron chin in round 15 with the fight dead even. Sanchez was incredibly clutch. Nelson achieving hall of fame status after the Sanchez defeat only adds to the win. Never again was Nelson ever knocked out.



    Wilfredo Gomez was smack in the middle of his prime when he fought Sanchez. Physical and intellectual peak..full of confidence coming off his career best win brutal knockout of hall of fame Zarate...the fact a slightly declined version of Gomez later won the featherright title only adds to the win. And Sanchez took flush punches off one of the greatest punchers in ring history!





    So you’re giving credit to saddler based on what he did at 135? I thought this was a matchup between two 126s? By your logic, dick tiger beating Jose Torres at 175 should trump anything monzon did at 160 since he never stepped up in weight

    Also you talk about Nelson being green when Sanchez beat him. What about joe brown when saddler beat him? He was he definition of green just 16-6!

    You bring up the close call with cowdell. What about Saddlers losses to Sierra terranova and Rosa all featherweights? Sanchez never had a bad loss in his prime
     
  12. mcvey

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    No,I'm not picking apart his record at all,I'm a fan of his ,I just don't think he beats Saddler ,neither do I think his record is as good either.Saddler beat imo the best featherweight who ever lived Willie Pep, Sanchez didn't even fight the other best feather of his generation Pedroza. Nelson was a 13 fight novice who hadn't fought a top man and only you claims he was prime because he certainly wasn't,the fact that he did so well against Sanchez says more about Sanchez than Nelson. Gomez was coming up in weight, yes or no? You give Sanchez credit for that but discount Saddler stopping lightweights and drawing with one you rate in the top 20 of all time?
    Where is the logic and consistency in that?
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Sanchez is a top ten all time feather ,imo Saddler is a top 2 all time.
     
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  14. ETM

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    Just curious think that Sandy would have beaten the Pre Airplane crash Willie Pep? What? Or how much did Willie lose from that?
     
  15. SuzieQ49

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    Sanchez is easily top 5 all time