Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. Sergey Vyacheslavovich Derevyanchenko

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Cinnamon Boy or The Technician?

Poll closed Nov 25, 2019.
  1. Álvarez on points

    52.0%
  2. Álvarez by stoppage

    12.0%
  3. Draw

    12.0%
  4. Derevyanchenko on points

    20.0%
  5. Derevyanchenko by stoppage

    4.0%
  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Hysterical shrill Soros client queen. Staff Member

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    This is the only iteration of the DJ/SD/GGG/Canelo middleweight elite merry-go-round that hasn't manifested in the ring...

    Previous results, chronologically:

    1. 3/18/17. Gennady Golovkin UD12 Daniel Jacobs - SUPER close (and could've gone either way)
    2. 9/16/17. Gennady Golovkin D12 Saúl Álvarez - SUPER close (but clear IMO for GGG)
    3. 9/15/18. Saúl Álvarez MD12 Gennady Golovkin - again SUPER close (but GGG should've won)
    4. 10/27/18. Daniel Jacobs SD12 Sergey Derevyanchenko - SUPER close (I had it 114-113 Jacobs)
    5. 5/4/19. Saúl Álvarez UD12 Daniel Jacobs - SUPER close (I scored it a draw)
    6. 10/5/19. Gennady Golovkin UD12 Sergey Derevyanchenko - SUPER close (I had SD winning 114-113)
     
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  2. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. Full Member

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    Man, this is a scintillating matchup. I can't pick.
     
  3. Malph

    Malph Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Make the fight in Eastern Europe with a strong mandatory drug testing provision.

    If that were done I'd favor SD.

    Make the fight in a Canelo friendly environment and I'd pick Canelo.

    Unfortunately its come to that.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe I have spoken Full Member

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    I'd highly favor Canelo, he would counter SD to death. SD's style is better against a BJS or Andrade imo.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Hysterical shrill Soros client queen. Staff Member

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    SD has never faced a body puncher like Canelo. (as big & strong, or as skilled at it)

    Canelo has never faced a body puncher like SD. (as big & strong, or as skilled at it)

    Do we think a body shot KO either way might be likely?
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Hysterical shrill Soros client queen. Staff Member

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    Really can't tell whether you're being sincere or sarcastic here.
     
  7. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    It is a hard pick!
    SD can definitely win on points, but can he really win on points against Canelo in Las Vegas???
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Hysterical shrill Soros client queen. Staff Member

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    Yeah coming from somebody else I wouldn't question it, but @Pakkuman is like @MVC! , a majority of his posts are trolling. Boys that cried wolf...sometimes they're serious, but..
     
  9. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    canelo by knockout to the body late
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard IsaL is a flipper and a flopper Full Member

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    Canelo close UD in the same vein of SD fights with GGG and Jacobs.

    Tbh I’d love to see how Canelo deals with a high tempo combination puncher like SD who is at his prime.
     
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  11. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo can beat anyone.

    What he needs is:
    1- NSAC
    2- Adelaide Byrd
    3- Another judge with a lastname like Martinez/Lopez/Gomez.
    4- A very large ring.
    5- A good training camp that will allow him to run for 36 minutes.

    A recipe for a guaranteed SD victory against any opponent. Usyk, Fury, The Rock, Khal Drogo.
     
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  12. elmaldito

    elmaldito Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo via controversial dec
     
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  13. Frankus

    Frankus Member Full Member

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    I think Canelo has faced a great body puncher in Golovkin, he just never utilised it out of fear of being countered.

    In saying that though, Golovkin seems to have forgotten how important going to the body is in his last 5 or so fights. It’s one of his most impressive weapons and he’s almost completely abandoned it.
     
  14. Jackman65

    Jackman65 No longer booted! Full Member

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    This would be a good fight. Probably 50-50. Hard to tell if Chenko is as good as he looked because GGG is really slowing down. Chenko was able to hit him way more than prime GGG. Canelo will probably grow out of MW and form another Canelo-weight between 160-168, maybe 165 after the Kov fight. If both were enrolled in legit drug testing it would be a competitive fight. Chenko is small, can he bulk up to 165 or so?
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    One thing for sure Sergiy has one more fan after that great showing ME!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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