Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. William Joseph Saunders/Elwin Soto Castro v. Katsunari Takayama RBR

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  1. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice The communists will destroy western civilization Full Member

    Apr 21, 2015
    I agree. BJS was doing very well and had a real shot at winning (on fair cards at least) until that one hit. It's very possible Canelo would have gone on to win, but at the time of the stoppage, Canelo certainly hadn't broken him down.
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  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 25, 2019
    Fangirls gonna fangirl... Can't reason with dumb fangirls unfortunately
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  3. Frankus

    Frankus Member Full Member

    Apr 14, 2016
  4. JOKER

    JOKER "He is greater." — AdamT on Pac > Fluid Jr. Full Member

    Dec 18, 2019
    Saunders deserves every morsel of mockery thrown at him. That's what you get when you talk all this garbage about gypsy heart and willing to die in the ring.

    The injury is irrelevant. He has to own up to his words. In that sense, he 100% quit.
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  5. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

    Dec 18, 2015
    Not really sure there'd be any point in a rematch, with Canelo ruthlessly zeroing in on Saunders' repaired orbital.
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  6. MagicE

    MagicE Active Member Full Member

    Aug 16, 2017
    No one's unbeatable.
    The argument of being up on the cards before the end of the fight doesn't mean anything.
    Canelo hurt him a few times, completely unhurt but behind on points by a round or two, who's in better shape with a third of the fight to go?
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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    This reminds me of when the Mexican translator said to JCC "te rajaste en la esquina". Literally translated it as "you bitched out in the corner". JCC exploded in anger. Hilarious moment. Dumb translator.
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    BJS’s inactivity finally caught up with him. He didn’t look sharp at all.
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  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    If the Dr said, there's a chance that an unfortunately placed punch will kill you by pushing the orbital bone into the brain, it's very different to this is going to hurt a lot but there's no additional risk

    We don't know for sure, but I suspect quitting was the right decision. He wasn't likely to come back, especially with loaded cards. Sure he talked a lot of bravado to sell the fight, oh wait , that's never happened before...
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  10. destruction

    destruction Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    Canelo caught BJS with body shots when he was against the ropes.

    The issue for BJS was that if he was going to be able sustain a 12 rounds of finessing Canelo and winning rounds. He needed to hold the centre of the ring and not expend energy going backwards and being caught on the ropes.

    I don’t think his legs and body were capable of executing the gameplan he needed to win the fight on points.

    It is clear though that a supreme elite boxer is the type of fighter to beat Canelo.
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  11. maac

    maac Member Full Member

    Apr 6, 2007
    Unrecognized Fact: not only his eye was done, his body also
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  12. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Active Member Full Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    That's YOUR scorecard which is not one of the three that count.
  13. sasto

    sasto Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 5, 2020
    I will confess, as a Canelo fan, I find it sad that BJS needed a sweep of the last four rounds and a KD to win in a fight that was so close and back and forth after 8.

    The whole thing that makes him special in the modern era is battling back from adverse results, so if he loses let him lose and come back stronger again.
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  14. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 18, 2006
    Gotta be able to hurt and slow down Clenelo.

    Billy Joe made him miss a bunch and it was making Clenelo gas but without the offense to hurt Clenelo.
  15. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 16, 2013
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