Santos Saúl Álvarez Barragán vs. William Joseph Saunders/Elwin Soto Castro v. Katsunari Takayama RBR

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  1. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

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    Boxers consider it very relevant

    Thats more important

    IBO is taken seriously by neither fans nor boxers bar junior
     
  2. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He quit after suffering an eye injury where others have fought through with a similar injury This especially after he ridiculed DuBois.
    He is a marginal talent who quit on his stool in the biggest fight of his career. What promoter can salvage that? Perhaps someone can but it'll be a high hill to climb. The quitter stigma will be tough to overcome for someone at his talent level.
    Especially with his personality.
     
  3. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo has no reason to rematch him. That isn't going to happen.
     
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  4. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one would pay to see it, Canelo would tear him apart (again)
     
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  5. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    All these clueless kids calling Saunders a quitter should be banned imo. Posters get banned for less.
     
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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it would help your argument, if bjs hadnt quit.
     
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  7. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is crazy, obviously I didn't know how bad that injury was at the time but it was clear his cheekbone disappeared.

    The fact is BJS has part of his skull detached, DETACHED, and people on here think he should have carried on and I think it's simply because they wanted to see him sparked.


    I'm pretty sure there are many people on these boards that are tough, hard and have a high pain barrier but having your orbital bones depressed might make you change your mind on how much you want to go on.
     
  8. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We all say things or believe things or think we would handle things certain ways until they happen to us.

    I agree, BJS shouldn't have said those things bout Dubois, but he wasn't the only one, many other ex pros and current pros said the same.

    Ok different levels, but Dave Allen said he'd never quit, said AJ quit against Ruiz and then Price punched the fight out of him a few months later.

    Fighters have to believe they are invincible, they have to believe they won't bend or fold, basically fighters talk a lot of crap.


    It sounds like to me people wanted BJS knocked out and didn't get it, so they are a little salty, so now after knowing the extent of the injury they still believe BJS should have basically gone blind to prove something or take satisfaction in the fact he ended up blind.. I don't know what people wanted.


    I asked the question the other night and didn't get an answer, if Canelo threw a right hand at BJS and dislocated his shoulder, was one armed and was pulled out.. is that a "quit job"?
     
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  9. BoxMan10

    BoxMan10 Active Member Full Member

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    lol you are a moron. goodbye
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Who junior? :thinking:

    RJJ and FMJ are the two most famous Juniors to ever wear an IBO belt, but I don't remember either of them ever playing up like it was among their proudest achievements. JCC Jr., Peter Manfredo Jr., CEJ..? All have been IBO titlists.

    This isn't a sport where you can just toss out "Junior" without any further context and assume you'll be understood. :nono:
     
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

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    Fair point

    My apologies

    I was referring to the young war horse Eubank
     
  12. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

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    I bet at least 50000 would
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me Full Member

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    Ah. Is he quite attached to his IBO belt, then? I pay so little attention to him (nor do most outside the UK, is my guess) that I forgot he was a 2x 'champ' with them. But he must not care that much about it because he let it go vacant to end both reigns.
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

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    When he held it he very much considered it a real world title

    Still references it today
     
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  15. Malph

    Malph Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like him or not, Canelo is the face of boxing these days. I'm not sure if that's the case in Britain, but in the US and Mexico it's true.

    He's a huge money maker for everyone involved. With that position comes certain influence and benifits.

    Everyone (almost) eventually loses but I don't see Canelo losing for a while.

    He is almost impossible to beat on points. He has a great chin and pretty good defense. His counterpunching makes opponents tentative.

    He can pick and choose who he fights.

    He will be tough to beat for quite a while.
     
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