Saul Alvarez - All Time Top 20 P4P?

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  1. Omega74

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    What does Canelo have to do to get into the Top 20 All time P4P ranking? Which accomplishments / opponents would give him that ranking?
     
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  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Oh man he would need to beat a few HOF'ers I imagine.
     
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  3. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if he had beaten Floyd and KO'd GGG then he would have had a shot at being in that higher level, but as it is I think top 100 (or maybe 75) is a best case scenario.

    Which isn't too bad if you think about it!
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Archie Moore
    Ray Leonard
    George Dixon
    Terry McGovern
    Packey McFarland
    Pernell Whitaker
    Tony Canzoneri
    Jimmy McLarnin

    Would need to get in with guys like that.
     
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  5. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Top 20P4P of Mexican boxers for sure.
     
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  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Top 20?? Based on.....titles/belts won per division?

    especially at a time when there are more belts then ever...and at boxing's EASIEST time to become a multiple weight champ...you need accomplished names to get the goods. Not just beating untested fighters for their belts.
     
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  7. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah. Clearing the weakest division in his weight range does not put you at the top table.
    If he'd cleared Middle as well as Light Heavy you maybe able to argue it. but that's clearly not going to happen now.
     
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  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, and it's not even close
     
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  9. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. He would need to sweep another division/s and add factors like longevity and high activity to his career to even become noteworthy on the boxing timeline.

    It's incredibly hard for modern fighters to crack top P4P lists. Not enough great names to add to resume; Mayweather-esque approach to matchmaking; boxing being less prominent etc.
     
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  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I have Clenelo right at the gates of the HOF. ATG, no way, Jose.
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh ffs here we go again. The guy is limited af. He has mastered the art of conning the public with - fixed fights, extensive cherrypicking, cardstacking and robberies.

    Your status as a legit boxing fan is invalidated if you support or believe this fraud.
     
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  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    I remember when Alvarez was disowned for running away from Golovkin, and dumping his strap back in the day.
    Those were the times.
     
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  13. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    To be fair, Golovkin had cooties. Or something.
     
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  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Top "insert number" lists are pointless. The spots available are limited but the number of great boxers will only increase.
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    He's definitely a top 10 - hell, top 5 PED cheat of all time :bandit:

    Drug testing, corrupt judges and short camps :camper:
    Canelo learned a lot from the Mayweather loss. Particularly the part where he must not lose at any cost.
     
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