saul alvarez, talk about hype job

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  1. MAIN

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    why aren't people seeing the hustle oscar is trying to do

    he puts up red head against "names" but who are way passed it and haven't done anything to deserve the fight

    jose cotto (dude who lost to paulie?) hatton (couldn't even come in proper weight to beat this bum?) baldomir (don't need to get into this), cintron, (kermit the frog?) mosley (2 whoopings and a draw?), now williams (ktfo and robbed lara?, but at least he DID win his last fight, but still), sure these are names, but they haven't done NOTHIN except lose and lose

    talk about milking and protecting

    where's kirkland, trout, lara, bundrage, mundine, vanes

    delvin rodriguez would be even better than what he's been fighting

    not saying they would win, but at least they're actual fights, rather than fights with "names" who haven't done nothing

    and folks think this guy is up there with lil floyd? lil floyd would whoop this kid
     
  2. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    Trout,Kirkland,Bundrage,Mundine,Vanes,D.Rodriguez.

    You call those guys step ups?

    He would beat all of those guys.

    The only one you named who has a shot and it would be 50/50 is Lara.

    The rest arent even better than Williams who hes about to fight.
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Williams is a big step up and he's just 21 years old. Talk about a whiny boxing "fan".
     
  4. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    I want Lara, Angulo and kirkland for him on any order, then coto.
    Ortiz would make the division even better, love em or hate em Ortiz cracks
     
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    Chavez Jr > Canelo
     
  6. MAIN

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    naw just bein real, i mean he fighting these guys who were good, but when he gets to them they just get used as stepping stones

    again, i didn't say the guys i mentioned would beat him, but i'm saying they are better comp than a hatton/mosley/cintron/baldomir etc

    williams is a good step, but why williams, why not a lara or even clottey, folks been saying williams is/was always a hype job and now that he got his chin cracked by serg was never the same. then after his gift against lara, folks were chewing out williams even more, but now all of a sudden he fights saul and now williams is a pimp again
     
  7. BigReg

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    Kirkland is an acceptable fight, but not Williams even though Williams just beat the hell out of the same Ishida that knocked out Kirkland? And if Paul Williams is so bad, then who has Lara ever beat? The Williams fight is a good fight. I don't see what the problem is.
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Williams as mentioned is beter than the guys you listed and Paul is still a top name and threat at 154. Legit weight class might I add and Canelo is fighting him there so props to him. I've been a big critic of Alvarez but he's doing just fine and picked a great choice in Williams.

    As far as being compared to Floyd, not at all. At most he begs for the fight against him but everyone here believes Floyd to be hills above Alvarez even Floyd's biggest haters.
     
  9. MAIN

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    yea, any of those guys would be better and would give a better assessment of where saul is

    he's fought enough of these stepping stone "big names," lets see what he can do against folks who actually are trying to fight for something as well

    I think the tree actually beats him
     
  10. MAIN

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    been saying that

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  11. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    I think so too but only because Ortiz has been proven even if hes been woopt, it had been proven fighters, we haven't seen Canelo in deep waters with proven fighters so we have no idea what he if capable of
     
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    i don't have a problem with the fight, i have a problem with the hustle oscar is pullilng with matching up with big names who are passed it. had williams not been ktfo and allowed that W against lara then this fight would even be better (i actually think had he not gotten ktfo and gifted with lara then there would be no canelo/williams fight)

    after williams, (assuming canelo gets the w) who will be next for him? cotto (after losing to lil floyd?) - another big name following a loss

    hasn't people been going this route with manny, saying he hasn't beaten anyone or if he has they are old and coming from losses?

    but now all of a sudden for canelo its "o what a great match"
     
  13. dbouziane

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    he's 21 so lets just see where this all goes. he's not bad for a 21 year old. yes he is hyped but when you put asses in seats, you get hyped. when you get hyped, more asses get put in seats and on and on we go.

    in the words of kenny powers: "dolla....dolla...bills ya'll." the kid is already a cash cow.

    and also, nothing wrong with a williams fight.
     
  14. Young Terror

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    Bro the kid is 21 years old.

    What the rush?

    Do you want another Vargas?

    All worn out and finished in his mid twenties.

    Or worse a David Reid(check out the thread about him)

    Give the kid some time.
     
  15. MAIN

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    i feel you, he's 21 and gettin that paper so props to him

    aint knockin him, he's gettin his money

    just puttin it out on blast that oscar aint puttin him in with legit comp, if anything they making canelo seem like somethin he aint and it might put more pressure on the kid

    again, nothin wrong with it, but do you think canelo would b fighting williams if he beat serg and lara?