Saul Alvarez vs Herol Graham - who wins?

LMAO! Dumb ****er went out like a light!

 

if you knew anything about Graham, you would know that his style was based around evading using footwork, rather than blocking. Its actually there in black and white in the video, glaringly obvious that he is doing so. Hands down lowers your centre of gravity, allowing you to move faster at the waist and below. Your own video destroyed you.

please study more boxing.

 

A subconscious need to lose maybe? You know, like Galota's low blows in order to get disqualified twice?

 

he fought in a tough era where the top guys were Hagler and Hearns, and then the lower tier was Kinchen, Shuler, Dewitt, later Jackson.

 

Getting KTFO by someone like Julian Jackson don't mean he has a glass chin. Jackson was a murderous puncher.

 

Graham did lose his big fights but in fairness, he lost to the likes of Mike McCallum, Julian Jackson, and Sumbu Kalambay. Canelo likely would have fared worse.

Kalambay gets underrated, perhaps because of the bomb he took from Nunn, or because of the depth of talent at the time at MW, but he was a very good fighter. His first fight with McCallum is one of the great defensive performances of all-time to me. He wasn't making some mediocre, or merely good, fighter miss constantly. He was making a great fighter in McCallum look anemic offensively.

I doubt Canelo can land a bomb like Jackson, who is one of the hardest punchers ever. Graham's movement would be a big issue, as Canelo has slow feet and doesn't exactly have the footwork of a JC Chavez or George Foreman. Those guys may not have had the quickest feet but they sure knew where to place their feet. Graham is quicker of hand. Canelo is a good counterpuncher but I don't think he lands that big shot to really turn the fight around, or often enough. Graham by clear UD.

The early 90s was a wasted era for middleweights. Incredible talent, but very few big fights between these top guys actually took place.

Surely Don King's ****ing ass played more than a small part in that.

 

Is this your favourite boxer Herol????

That makes sense!!!!

The only thing I remember about that guy was when he got knocked out by JJ.

Did he ever fight after that??

 

What are you talking about?

 

He wasn't dumb, that's how he fought.

He was very talented.

Naz fought in the same, unorthadoxed way.

 

He had an unorthadox style like Naz and RJJ etc.

He got caught big by a monster puncher.

It doesn't alter the fact that he was a world class fighter with great ability.

 

That doesn't nullify the fact that standing in front of a monster puncher with hands down is what did him in in that fight.

 

What part of what I said is confusing you?

 

You putting forward the theory that he may have had a subconscious need to lose.

I think that's absolutely ridiculous.

 

It isn't my theory. It is basic abnormal psychology that such mental conditions exist. All you need to do is google "Fear of Success" and you will get many sources to familiarize yourself with the concept.
http://99u.com/articles/14347/are-you-subconsciously-afraid-of-success

BTW

I took General psychology, Child Psychology, and Abnormal psychology as electives for my degree in Social Science. So I m not pulling ideas out of my ass.

It is referred to a the Jonah Complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_complex