Saul "Amarillo™" Alvarez Should Be Ashamed Of Himself-The Reign Of Duckelo Has Begun.

Thomas Hearns moved up two divisions to win a title. Pazienza moved up two divisions to win a title. Roger Mayweather moved up two divisions to win a title. Arturo Gatti went up two divisions to win a title. Michael Moorer moved up two divisions to win a title. Bernard Hopkins moved up two divisions to win a title. Roberto Guerrero moved up two divisions to win a title. Adrien Broner moved up two divisions to win a title. And on and on and on.

Jesus Christ ... it happens all the time anymore. Is this news to you?

 

I'm not talking about fighters moving up over the course of their careers.atsch How many multi weight champs have we seen? I'm talking about a fellow that skipped over a whole division in one fell swoop, in Khan's case 154, and automatically gets a title shot without even establishing himself at either 154 or 160. All the guys you mentioned followed the natural progression upon moving up and established themselves at the weights. Khan's getting a middleweight title shot without any ranking at 154 and 160 as he's never fought at those weights.

 

Bull.

Pazienza was a lightweight champ. He challenged for the 140 pound title twice and lost both times. He tried to get a rematch with Garza and couldn't. So he moved up two divisions and won the 154-pound title. (Actually three divisions from his last title.) Pazienza didn't win a 140-pound title or a 147-pound title before he fought Gilbert Dele.

Tommy Hearns was the 154 pound champ. He moved up to middleweight and got knocked out by Hagler. He stuck around and became the mandatory contender when he knocked out Shuler. And Hagler decided to fight Leonard. So Hearns moved up 15 pounds to light heavy and knocked out Andries for the light heavyweight title. He wasn't a light heavy at that time. He went right back down to middleweight. But he went from 154 pound champ to 175 pound champ with nothing in between.

How many super middleweight titles did Hopkins win before he won the light heavy title from Tarver? His only light heavyweight fight before Tarver was his first fight, which he lost.

Khan's going up eight pounds from 147 to 155. I think he can manage.

 

He isn't ranked amongst the top 3 at WW. Totally unranked at LMW. Never even been thought of as a MW.

 

Who doesn't have him ranked in the top three at welterweight? Ring does. The WBC does. The WBA does. The WBO does?

 

I stand corrected. Nicely done, D:good. However, having written that, do you believe Khan deserves a shot?

 

No, he doesn't "deserve" one. Tommy Hearns didn't "deserve" a light heavyweight title shot, either. Leonard didn't deserve a middleweight title shot. Sergio Martinez didn't "deserve" a middleweight title shot against Pavlik. Cotto didn't "deserve" a fight with Martinez. Most guys who fight for any titles don't "deserve" it.

Khan can win if he doesn't get caught.

I hope it's a good fight.

 

No way is he above Pac, Bradley or Brook.

As I've said, fighting a fringe contender from two divisions down is not unprecedented, it's just not a very good defence.

It creates revenue for Canelo so fair play to him but as a boxing fan I can express anger at a ***** move when I see one.

 

He's not a "fringe" contender.

He's ranked #1 by the WBC at welter. He's ranked #2 by the WBA (only David Avanesyan - whoever that is - ahead of him) at welter. He's ranked #3 by the WBO (with Pacquiao and Saddam Ali - who has no business there - ahead of him). And number three by RING (who has Kell Brook - a beltholder and Pac ahead of him).

I'm not sure what you mean by not being top 3 contender. Brook is a champ. Pac is his own entity and will be the WBO champ in a few months.

Khan is the number-one welterweight contender. He's not fringe.

 

Let me rephrase that then. How do you feel that he's getting this shot? I don't think he'll win, but I'm on for Khan. That would blow up in the faces of Canelo and DeLaHoya.

 

It's fine.

If he wins it's fine. If he loses it's fine.

I don't know what answer you're looking for. It's not out of the ordinary. It's happened before and the guys moving up often win.

It doesn't enrage me. It doesn't thrill me.

I won't order it. I'll watch it on a stream. I'm sure I'll be looking forward to it the night of the fight.

It's fine.

Alvarez just won the title. And Alvarez just moved up himself. If the options were Khan or some usual suspect like Tureano Johnson at middleweight, the choice of Khan is fine.

I'm looking forward to Alvarez-Khan more than I am Golovkin vs whoever that guy is he's fighting. Wade.

:hi:

 

The number 1 and 2 contenders are Pac and Bradley. Number 3 is Brook, number 4 is Khan. There is no champ in Floyds absence but there will be when Pac and Bradley fight.

I'm not sure why you feel a need to defend this fight tbh. Khan has proved his ***** here but it isn't a good fight for Canelo. I hope Khan does it, obviously, but Canelo is facing someone who was a title holder at LWW, unproven at WW and never competed at LMW.

 

To be fair, Canelo received the green light by the WBC to have a "tune-up" before his mandatory with Golovkin. So he essentially went after the biggest money fight there is in the sport outside of him fighting Manny Pacquiao.

I still have my reservations that Canelo will actually fight Golovkin if he ends up beating Khan. If Khan wins, he'll vacate the belt and GGGwill be given the title of full WBC champion.

GGG and his team have mentioned many times they're not chasing anybody in particular, just the belts. So even if Canelo has no interest in fighting him in the fall, he'll be forced to drop the belt and GGG will automatically pick it up. That'll leave him with Jacobs and BJS as the other 2 champions to go after in the division, and than he can finally make the claim of being the undisputed MW champion which is clearly the most important thing to him.

 

Lol, I wasn't looking for anything. I was inquiring about your position as we obviously disagree on the matter. Enjoy the fight.

 

LOL khan isn't winning this fight the scorecards have already been filled out and khan isn't knocking out alvarez. you are delusional