Saunders v Canelo

I don't see anything Saunders has over Canelo besides movement, defensively Alvarez is the slicker fighter with his upper body movement, and a better puncher/counter puncher vs a higher level of comp. Saunders likely gets dragged into deep waters and gets UD'd if he ops to run like Lara or possibly stopped if he goes out on his shield.
160 isn't really a tough division at the moment and hasn't been for awhile, if anything 54 presents the bigger matchup problems. Saunders is a slower lesser version of guys Alvarez already beat might lead to a few tricky rds, Lemuiex is a style he feast on, Jacobs it just depends on who lands first , GG I think get's outboxed in a firefight.
Andrade if he gets active probably caused more problems than those 4.

 

I'd slightly favor Canelo. Saunders is smarter, maybe a little more technical, but Canelo has the better physical tools. He's faster and stronger at the very least. I wouldn't be surprised if Canelo had a better chin and gas tank too.

Canelo isn't a world beater. We've seen his weaknesses against guys like Lara, but he's still top level.

 

I just don't believe in the " He took so and so's punches, so he'll walk through this guy's punches". Boxing doesn't always work that way. Kirkland got knocked out by light punching Ishida, but came back and brutalized Angulo.. I think BJS is a good fighter, but like I said before he's not a particularly fast fighter, he's got movement and is a southpaw. It's going to be a tough fight for both, but I doubt any type of Toying will happen.

 

How is he stronger than fully fledged middle weights? He's never been in the ring with a natural middle weight in his entire life.
There's no evidence to suggest he beats anybody at middle weight. He's a far better technical boxer than Eubank but that wouldn't stop Eubank beating the jiblets out of him. Size matters a great deal at these weights.

 

It's only six pounds dude. They are practically the same thing, especially the way Alvarez rehydrates into light heavyweight territory. Plus, you can tell who hits harder by the way they handle their opponents. Alvarez has 34 KOs and Billy Joe has 12. They are at 68% and 52% KO rates respectively. Expect Canelo's rate to drop a couple of points down to maybe 60% as he moves up to middleweight, but it shouldn't be a huge drop.

As for how you can tell, when the guy doesn't fight in the same division, did you ever watch Trinidad or Hearns at Junior Middleweight and then wonder if they would still be hitters at middleweight?

 

Yeah, but you have to remember when Ishida knocked Kirkland out that was his third fight in a month. He might have been red lining things physically. I also figure he probably got concussed in sparring and walked into the ring with his bell already half rung. When he fought Angulo he'd had 4 months to rest and probably a good camp.

 

You are not serious Trout has a win against Cotto who looked like a midget compare to Trout. Trout hasn´t got skills or power to compete any top 10 middleweight. Do u seriously believe Trout has a chance even against Monroe Jr. (#10 MW)?

 

Nah it's a pretty solid point. If fighter B took fighter C's punches he could definitely take fighter A's... nope, whether
Angulo fought the wrong strategy or not, he still got sucked into a firefight and got stopped by a dude got knocked out by a feather fisted Asian fighter. Which is what you insinuated imo.

And another thing I want to touch on, is BJS ability to stay composed. Hell be fighting the biggest fight of his career against the biggest star in the sport right now, will he be able to stick to a gameplan once he gets hit, or will he try to fight fire with fire? Not saying he can't do it, but a fight of this magnitude he may not be mentally prepared for it.. I've seen the bright lights shrink fighters before.

 

That could be, but it still happened. I think this fight is a great fight and just because Lee couldn't knock out Saunders doesn't mean Canelo can't do it. All it takes is the perfect punch and that could be all she wrote.

 

Its not just about poundage. He's also at a big reach and height disadvantage.

Canelo was taken the distance by the only note worthy 154 punders he ever faced. Hearns and Trinidad would have layed Cotto and Trout out cold. Lara possibly as well. Mayweather get taken out by Hearns.
Look at the way Angulo was eating Canelos best shots clean on the dome round after round like they were nothing... You think his chin woulda held up if it was Trinidad and Hearns in there?
ffs , he's not even in the same universe as those guys.. He's not a bogey man at 154 as it stands right now. Until he does anything at middle he isn't favourite to beat anybody.
I wouldn't make him favourite against Blackwell if he was still active , never mind Billy Boy.

 

It's only 6 pounds Dino, it's not like a WW moving up 13 pounds.

 

Now there you got a bit carried away haha

 

Friggin dino.