Savannah Marshall vs. Lolita Muzeya & Hughie Lewis Fury vs. Criștian Ciocan RBR.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    What exactly does she do well? Analyze this and tell me how she's special. This is probably the best opponent she's faced.
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  2. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    She's really not all that good, not a clever boxer. Just throws a ton of arm punches and relies on her opponents being pretty crap defensively or tired.
     
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  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Hammer is terrible, like really bad. She had her only loss corruptly declared a DQ then a NC when she was in fact KOd clean and that fight was her only big step up against a natural welterweight in Ann Sophie Mathis.
    Here's a link to the awful decision so you can see for yourself.
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  4. The G-Man

    The G-Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you say this before the fight?
    Because I’m pretty sure the consensous here was that Hammer would win and specifically you said this.
     
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  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marshal beat her already. God willing she'll smack the snot our of that cross dresser. Marshall is better in every department. Looks department, more likeable, she has more fans than Clressa and more knockouts. She's just blessed to have the power and skill as well.Claressa you can dress it up, glam it up, still looks like a drag queen. Now, she's the bad guy in this match up the darkside.

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  6. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Honestly i worry about you lol

    She's bloody awful skill wise
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 Liminal Space Autochthon Staff Member

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    How is any of this relevant to Marshall vs. Shields? At the time, Shields was unproven and had never been in with even a half decent opponent, but... she ended up being slightly better than an up and down by the numbers okay one two artist opponent with no power. She proved us all wrong there. But if you can't see the obvious difference in terms of skillset between Marshall and Hammer and understand that this will be an infinitely harder fight for Shields, then I don't know what to tell you. However, since it means so much to you, because you're repeatedly bringing up Hammer, I'd pick Marhall without hesitation to stop Hammer, and that's the pre-Shields loss version.
     
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  8. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Stop being silly. Clareesa is a very attractive girl as is Katie Taylor and Serrano. Marshall is not attractive at all. In fact she looks kind of rough but to each their own. None of them a patch on the beautiful Laila Ali and Lucia Rikjer.
     
    Olu G. Rotimi, Oct 20, 2021
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  9. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Whatever. She is from the Mid West USA and has the skills.
     
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  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Lol
    She is sloppy as hell

    Tough girl but skills not much at all
     
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  11. The G-Man

    The G-Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unoroven?
    She had already beaten Franchon,Nelson and Gabriels-all decent opponents.
    Its relevant in the sense that you are obviously biased against Shields.
    And yes Marshall is better but that doesnt mean Shields is in without a chance.
     
    The G-Man, Oct 21, 2021
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  12. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Serrano attractive?
     
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  13. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hammer was the one holding. Should have been a KO win for Mathis, right?
     
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  14. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes it should have, quite clearly so.
     
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  15. Serge

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    Marshall is clearly the slickest, most skillful and most powerful female boxer on the planet

    She has already beaten Claressa

    Claressa is built like Murat Gassiev but punches like Paulie Malignaggi

    Even though she turned pro at 168 and has moved down through the weights beating up on 160, 154, 147 and blown up 140 pounders who she's naturally bigger and stronger than, she sports a terrifying KO% 18 or 2 KOs in 11 fights. But people criticize Marshall for destroying a hungry young undefeated strong as an oxen lioness who'd stopped five of her previous six opponents, three via KO, who'd come up in weight :facepalm:

    She's only scored 2 KOs and I think she's only registered a couple of KDs in all those fights (I'll have to double check) and she was dropped on her ass herself in one of those fights by a 154 pounder. And it's not like she isn't cracking her opponents with plenty of flush 'power' punches all night either.

    GOATs and GWOATs don't move down through divisions beating up on garden gnomes and leprechauns they're naturally bigger, stronger and more powerful than they move up :facepalm:

    Marshall sports a fearsome KO% 81 which is unheard of for a female boxer

    She stopped their only common opponent Hannah Rankin who she beat the crap out of

    Yes Claressa has fought the better competition so far but six of Marshall's 11 victims have only been stopped once in their career and that was by her

    And beauty like ugliness is in the eye of the beholder

    If we're talking about hot female boxers

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    Marshall is softly spoken and demure and she has a nice North East accent and that makes her more attractive
     
    Serge, Oct 21, 2021
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