saw sum david haye training footage on youtube........

Really? You don't say.

Here is a novel concept. Yes it is possible to put on muscle without steroids, many on this board have done it themselves. What is striking is that Haye has put on so much muscle while being a boxer, which is incredibly hard to do. A man, who used to fight at 178 and the 201 and below category in the amateurs, who used to fight at 190, now bulks up to as high as 238 before cutting back down to the 220's for this fight. One need only look at Haye's build to realize his muscle growth isn't natural.

 

Well it's nice to see a physician give their opinion. if he was on roids, it would have shown up by now. and you only have to look at his amateur **** to realise that he has grown into the body he is in now. so stop trying to belittle the achievements of your physical superiors. i bet you look like chris arreola after too many churros.

 

atschatsch

If it's apparently so obvious that Haye is on steroids then why is it only you and a few other imbeciles that are claiming it?? Haye's just moved into the HW division, so he's obviously going to bulk up abit. Hayes a dedicated athlete, not a drugs cheat as the haters would like the world to believe

 

Wow your a tool :roll:

Its perfectly possible to put that much muscle on, Haye does weights nearly everyday as part of his training, if you couple that with eating enough of the right foods you can put on muscle easily.

I myself went from 168lbs to 205lbs in under a year by taining hard and eating right. You have no ****ing clue dip****.

 

Spot on mate ! ... the guy has no idea .... i went from 196lbs to 238lbs in 18-24 months through training 5 times a week and eating the right stuff (mainly Burgers...lol- its a good source of protein:yep) ...

Haye looks in awesome shape and do you honestly think he would risk PeDs with what future he has mapped out !! atsch ....

 

Have you got something to tell us mad ??? :yikes

 

He's 225 and looks way faster than Cotto.

 

He looked crisp on those mitts ..He should be able to fire off 3 punch combos with ease on this tall bum!

 

The only tool here is a hugger like you.

 

What are you Bruce Lee?

 

Haye gained massive amounts of weight after his fight with Enzo in very short time, before the Barrett fight. Then, he also didn't look "natural" at all, typical wax body. Today, and with the amount of time gone, it "could" also be achieved naturally. He doesn't appear that much on GH anymore, which would also be extremely detrimental to health anyways, if done over too long time.

And no, if your body isn't inside a growth episode anyways, gaining 40lb of muscle "just eating right" (burgers ???? you are kidding yourself) in just one year is not possible. If you are naturally growing at that point (like during the episode of bulking around 30), it is possible, although 40lb is a lot. I gained around 30lb, with my testosteron levels exploding (and I am over 6'4"). The natural healthy long-time limit is around 7kg = 15lb a year, if strictly muscles, and not a mix of fat, muscle and water from doing creatine. And you quickly hit a plateau, where more growth is increasingly hard. PLEASE, don't tell me that Bob Sapp did all that weight "naturally", just from "eating right". With 40lb a year, you are there in 2 years, right ?

BTW, the easiest way to see is looking at his jaws. Jaw growth = roids and GH, just look at Overeem.

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What strikes me in the sparring videos are two things. First, his footwork appears to hint that his leg strength and balance didn't increase with his weight same way as his upper body size and strength. At times it looks as if something is wrong with his knees or hip joints, for example when stretching in the corner.

Second, he does a good jab at the proper height, and then starts unloading hooks and UPPERCUTS at HIS head height ? Does he intend to throw powerpunches exclusively to the body, and throw uppercuts at Valuevs sternum ? Or does he expect Valuev to cringe over in pain when hit to the body, so his chin will hang over his trunks ?

 

Wow great comeback :-(

 

Not looking for comebacks. You clearly have the mentality of a middle schooler since your only response to a thought out post was name calling. Congratulations, you have proven that the average Haye fan is amused by the antics of an imbecile.

 

haye is an imbecile who is gonna knock out that freak of nature...:yep
speed kills as you will see when valuev hots the deck like a sack of ****.

 

This was about Haye and the appearance of inpropriety, ie the usage of steroids. Try to catch up.